Author Topic: SOLVED: WTH # 295 - Aryaman Motors replica of 1919 Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost  (Read 800 times)

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This car is a bit of a replica.  Who built it, and which specific car is it supposed to resemble?
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Re: WTH # 295
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2014, 03:41:42 PM »
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Re: WTH # 295
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2014, 08:14:42 PM »
Too strange?

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Re: WTH # 295
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2014, 04:02:08 PM »
Obviously meant to resemble a Rolls Royce Silver Ghost.

From South America?
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Re: WTH # 295
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2014, 06:12:51 PM »
From the Middle-East?

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Re: WTH # 295
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2014, 07:06:09 PM »
It is a replica of a specific Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost.

From the middle-East

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Re: WTH # 295
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2014, 09:50:39 PM »
At first glance I thought maybe this unfortunate car was intended to replicate the 1912 Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost Limousine  called "Lady Bird," originally owned by Lady Eaton . . . But the rear bodywork actually looks too rounded for that car, it's somewhat similar to a 1920-22 Barker Limousine so that's what I'll guess. In any case, whichever Silver Ghost it's supposed to look like, it's not really very well done . . . The proportions are way off. Oh, well - no accounting for taste, or the lack of it.
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Re: WTH # 295
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2014, 11:56:17 PM »
No connection to Barker that I have found.  Not sure who did the coachbuilding on the original.

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Re: WTH # 295
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2014, 09:11:04 AM »
So just to clarify . . . We are looking for the particular Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost that this replicar from the Middle East is supposed to be patterned after, but you are unaware of the coachbuilder of the original car?
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Re: WTH # 295
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2014, 09:14:52 AM »
1) Who built this replica
2) Which Silver Ghost is it supposed to resemble?  It would be enough to name the owner of the original, non-replica car.

I am not aware of the coachbuilder of the original Silver Ghost

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Re: WTH # 295
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2014, 10:10:09 AM »
OK, thanks - that helps. Glad I asked.
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Re: WTH # 295
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2014, 10:38:05 AM »
After a brief search combining various middle eastern countries and Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost, I turned up Aryaman Motors in Iran. Apparently they have constructed a few replicas of early Rolls-Royce cars, including the puzzle car. It was made for the Saad Abad Palace museum in north Tehran, and the car is supposed to resemble a 1919 Silver Ghost model once owned by the last Shah of Iran, Reza Shah Pahlavi.
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Re: WTH # 295
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2014, 08:11:05 PM »
And the point goes to Fyreline for the correct answer.

Here is the original car, which seems to be on display in a sealed glass container:
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Hi Cuda:

Thanks for that next to the last photo.  The reflection in the glass case showed an obvious military truck, my primary research interest, and I was able to find this photo of the truck Googling the Museum.

Bill

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Title's a bit confused as surely it should be Silver Ghost - unless the imitation is based on a Shadow of course.
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Mis-typed, it is of course a Ghost.  No idea what it was based upon.

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There are much more egregious "mis-types" . . . The last glass-case photo above shows the Englsh translation on the display sign as "ROLS-ROYS".  ;D
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