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Solved: Wendax 1122 - Jack Sport
« on: January 04, 2014, 01:41:09 AM »
Threewheeler racing.

For one point, please respond and identify this car.
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2014, 01:35:40 AM »
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2014, 01:30:26 AM »
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2014, 01:44:31 AM »
isn't this a Rovin?
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2014, 01:54:57 AM »
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2014, 03:02:23 AM »
Could it be a Sphinx?
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2014, 03:58:50 AM »
Is it an early Morgan?
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2014, 07:03:07 AM »
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2014, 07:06:06 AM »
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 18, 2014, 03:02:23 AM
Could it be a Sphinx?
Your pictured car certainly looks as if it was developed from my puzzle car. Further on, the driver is the same M. Cheret. But I have a completely different name for the car. I hope that my contemporary source was correct. Locked for you to find the name I have.
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2014, 07:08:55 AM »
Ok, I'll try to look for more.
I found several contemporary sources (at least 3 magazines of the 30s) reporting Cheret's presence at the Bol d'Or race of 1931 and the car was called 'Sphinx' or 'Sphinx-Staub'.

Fortunately there is a lot of material about Cheret and Bol d'Or races.
Is that a Bol d'Or race? Mine should be the '31 edition, is the car in your picture younger?
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2014, 09:02:39 AM »
I guess my picture is from Bol D'Or, too, but I don't know for sure. I agree with you that Chéret drove a Sphinx at Bol D'Or 1931, but my picture is older.
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2014, 12:10:31 PM »
In 1928 he drove a Jean Thomann in the 'Sidecars 350cc' class (and one in 'Sidecars 1000' in 1927) an Austral in the 'Sidecars 600cc' (and one in Sidecars 350cc in 1927) and a 'La Française' in the 'Sidecars 350cc' class too.
I'd guess the name you are looking for is 'La Française' and the year is 1928.
It is interesting to note that Cheret indeed drove a Rovin (250cc and 100cc) and a Vélomoteur 125cc named P.S. in 1923.
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2014, 02:28:58 PM »
None of those, the year is between your recent guesse and your first guesses.
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2014, 05:01:11 PM »
Quote from: Wendax on January 18, 2014, 02:28:58 PM
None of those, the year is between your recent guesse and your first guesses.
So it has to be 1929 or 1930.
Since I found the entry list of 1930 and he was not there, I can presume it was 1929.
I found some references of him driving motorcycles, a C.P. Roleo with LMP engine but not a 3-wheeler so far.
Am I barking up the right tree?
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2014, 05:07:06 PM »
1929 is correct, but in a forum I found a listing of Bol d'or class winners, stating his name as well as the car's name.
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2014, 05:09:29 PM »
Jack Sport?
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2014, 05:12:29 PM »
8ème Bol d'Or, then...
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2014, 05:12:57 PM »
Yes, one more point for you.
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2014, 05:14:43 PM »
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 18, 2014, 05:12:29 PM
8ème Bol d'Or, then...
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Bol d'Or 1929 - only class winners

Cyclecars
350 cc : Cheret (Jack Sport) 1011 km
500 cc : Saladin (Monotrace) 1003 km
750 cc : Feger (Monotrace) 1283 km (record)
1100 cc : Gueret (Sandford) 1555 km
Sports cars
1100 cc : Colas (DFP) 1626 km
Ufa (Scap)
Racing cars
750 cc : Dumoret (Sima Violet) 1254 km
1100 cc : Dhome (Lombard) 1810 km = 75,5 km/h
Vanhoof (Rally) 1613,5 km
Vernet (Salmson) 1567,5 km

source: Auto i Sport 1929 (No.3)
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Re: Wendax 1122
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2014, 05:19:37 PM »
Wow..it was a blind guess.
I read that name in a '29 Spanish online magazine:
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Re: Solved: Wendax 1122 - Jack Sport
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2019, 02:57:59 PM »
Another picture from 1929
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