Author Topic: Solved NIC#198 - 1933 Ford V8 Sports Saloon by Compton for W.J.Reynolds  (Read 903 times)

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Re: Solved NIC#198 - Ford V8 Model 18 by W.J.Reynolds
« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2014, 04:28:04 AM »
So Autopuzzles has become 'Football'puzzles... ;D  I understand Ropat is happy, let's see if he is still happy this Sunday....

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Re: Solved NIC#198 - Ford V8 Model 18 by W.J.Reynolds
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2014, 05:16:14 AM »
I'm happy for all of you - England came last in their group.

I'm afraid I can't give you any further information about the puzzle car. W J Reynolds were about the largest Ford dealer in the London area at the time, so it is quite likely that they had a coachbuilding shop as well as the dealership. I'm taking a guess that the model name they gave to this car was the Compton - I thought it may have been named after a popular sportsman named Denis Compton, but he would have been only 15 years old at the time!
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Re: Solved NIC#198 - Ford V8 Model 18 by W.J.Reynolds
« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2014, 06:34:56 AM »
I have heard from a fellow AP member that Arthur Compton was an active coachbuilder in that period, both in partnerships and in companies of his own. I still have no idea whether he designed this body for the Ford dealership, or whether they sold his work as a sideline. There is obviously a good chance that he was involved in this design.
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Re: Solved NIC#198 - Ford V8 Model 18 by W.J.Reynolds
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2014, 07:07:16 AM »
Nick Walker (A-Z of British Coachbuilders) tells us that Arthur Compton (t/a A.P. Compton & Co. Ltd., Arrow Coachworks, Hanwell) provided special bodies for . . Ford 8 tourers for W.J. Reynolds, Ford V8 fixed head coupés for W.H. Perry . . .

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Re: Solved NIC#198 - Ford V8 Model 18 by W.J.Reynolds
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2014, 07:13:01 AM »
Nick Walker (A-Z of British Coachbuilders) tells us that Arthur Compton (t/a A.P. Compton & Co. Ltd., Arrow Coachworks, Hanwell) provided special bodies for . . Ford 8 tourers for W.J. Reynolds, Ford V8 fixed head coupés for W.H. Perry . . .

Thanks, Allan. I'm not really a coachbuilder expert. From what you say, there is every likelihood that the body was a design by Compton commissioned by W J Reynolds. It's very attractive, rather reminiscent of the "Blue Train" Bentley, although as we all know that wasn't the car which raced the train.
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Re: Solved NIC#198 - Ford V8 Model 18 by W.J.Reynolds
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2014, 07:13:48 AM »
I'm not trying to interfere here but maybe I can shed a little more light on this most interesting puzzle and help Andy out.

Firstly, this car was built over 80 years ago and the industry was a lot different then with a lot of small body builders selling cars directly to large dealerships who often put "their own name" on the coach work/completed car.

Early on, I came up with the same answer as Ropat from his source and it looked pretty solid.  1933 Ford V8 Sports Saloon, body by Compton who built a lot of similar bodies on a wide range of cars at the time.  I will mention here that Ford of Great Britain maintained the US 1932 styling on their V8 models until 1935 which can be confusing sometimes.  I always assumed it was a volume question, much like Ford of Germany skipping some model year styling in the 1930's.

On the other hand, research done on W.J. Reynolds seems to indicate that they were possibly body builders as well but all I have found so far is truck bodies and rather a lot of those.  I post here a very small advert for their body work during this time period.

I would say it is entirely possible that Compton built this body, our source is pretty reliable, and that W.J. Reynolds just called it their product for marketing purposes.  Compton got paid so they were probably OK with that.

One way or the other, it seems pretty certain that this car was sold by W.J. Reynolds from what I can see.
Gotta love the Internet, it is always sooooo accurate.

Bill

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Re: Solved NIC#198 - Ford V8 Model 18 by W.J.Reynolds
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2014, 07:16:12 AM »
Wow!!!!!!!!!!

Lots of action for one little car...........

Thanks Allan for the additional input.

Bill
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Re: Solved NIC#198 - Ford V8 Model 18 by W.J.Reynolds
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2014, 07:23:49 AM »
Thanks, Bill. You're not interfering at all!  I think all too often we just post a picture, and then post the answer, and there's so much more to talk about. In this instance I selected an image with only a caption from the internet, which as you say is ALWAYS right. I had no other reference to the car to check its veracity.

I absolutely agree with you about the probability that this car was bodied by Compton, possibly by commission from the dealer, or possibly at the request of a customer of the dealer. Whatever, it was sold through W.J.Reynolds, and no doubt they got the lion's share of the profit.

I think the evidence is enough to rename the title of the puzzle.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia