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Re: PJ - 612 - Who will be 1st?
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2014, 06:25:26 AM »
Borgward?

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Re: PJ - 612 - Who will be 1st?
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2014, 06:26:37 AM »
Richard Arbib and Hudson/Nash ?
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

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Re: PJ - 612 - Who will be 1st?
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2014, 06:44:36 AM »

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Re: PJ - 612 - Who will be 1st?
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2014, 06:56:12 AM »
BMW?

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Re: PJ - 612 - Who will be 1st?
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2014, 01:46:34 AM »
Mercedes-Benz? Francis Lombardi?

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Re: PJ - 612 - Who will be 1st?
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2014, 06:02:38 AM »

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Re: PJ - 612 - Who will be 1st?
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2014, 06:26:08 AM »
BMW?
Yes!
So it is probably a design proposal for a BMW 501/502 successor. Was it done by an Italian designer?

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Re: PJ - 612 - Who will be 1st?
« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2014, 07:40:26 AM »
BMW?
Yes!
So it is probably a design proposal for a BMW 501/502 successor. Was it done by an Italian designer?
Not Italian.

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Re: PJ - 612 - Who will be 1st?
« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2014, 07:51:14 AM »
German designer?

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Re: PJ - 612 - Who will be 1st?
« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2014, 10:46:14 AM »
Albrecht Goertz?

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Re: PJ - 612 - Who will be 1st?
« Reply #35 on: May 06, 2014, 10:58:03 AM »

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Re: PJ - 612 - Who will be 1st?
« Reply #36 on: May 06, 2014, 01:05:03 PM »
Wilhelm Hofmeister?

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Re: PJ - 612 - Who will be 1st?
« Reply #37 on: May 06, 2014, 01:09:37 PM »
Nope...

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Re: PJ - 612 - Who will be 1st?
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2014, 04:44:37 AM »
Was Peter Szymanowski German? I can't find a confirmation in the web articles I've found about him.
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Re: PJ - 612 - Who will be 1st?
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2014, 06:22:50 AM »
A designer usually connected to BMW?

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Re: PJ - 612 - Who will be 1st?
« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2014, 06:32:32 AM »
Was Peter Szymanowski German? I can't find a confirmation in the web articles I've found about him.
Yes! I had the same doubts but then found out that it's a 'German designer of Polish descent'...and more important it's the name I was looking for!
Those were two of 3 totally different designs for the BMW 501.
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Re: PJ - 612 - Who will be 1st?
« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2014, 06:01:45 AM »
Was Peter Szymanowski German? I can't find a confirmation in the web articles I've found about him.
Yes! I had the same doubts but then found out that it's a 'German designer of Polish descent'...and more important it's the name I was looking for!
Those were two of 3 totally different designs for the BMW 501.

Per the commitment made elsewhere at AP, I arrived at this guess as follows:

  • First I made a guess based upon the general look of the cars, one of which had some attributes of a 50's Nash. Of course, I was well off the mark.
  • Second, I followed the puzzle as others proffered their guesses. In time, the following was asked, and was confirmed: 

    Design for a German car?
    BMW?
    German designer?

From there, a Google word search of BMW and Designers led to a marque fan site that contained mini-biographies of BMW designers through the years. Looking within the time period the drawings suggested, it was time to guess BMW designers that had not already been guessed: Albrecht Goertz?Wilhelm Hofmeister?.

As I could not determine Peter Szymanowski's place of birth, I posted the question. 

Interestingly, from what I read, Szymanowski felt challenged with how to keep up with the increasingly modern designs that were appearing in the 1950's, and decided to connect his design to that of pre-war BMW's, with the upright "kidney" grilles. I guess the illustrations show what might have happened if BMW had taken a modernist approach..
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