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Solved - NEH 3663: De Joux Alfa GTO - 1990s
« on: September 08, 2014, 07:03:57 AM »
What's this, what powered it and who built it - for 1 point?:

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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2014, 05:23:10 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2014, 10:52:40 AM »
Home-made Ferrari replica ?

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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2014, 11:37:11 AM »
Home-made Ferrari replica ?

That's right..
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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2014, 12:09:51 PM »
Made in Europe ?

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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2014, 04:31:03 AM »
Made in Europe ?

It's not, no.
I may restrict the questions to those about cars though.
The trouble with geographical questions can be that once the country is identified, effectively the puzzle can be at an end as it can narrow it down to just one or two marques.
Please therefore keep away from them; many thanks.
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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2014, 12:05:49 PM »
Is it still a work in progress or does it exist now as a proper car ?

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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2014, 05:45:30 AM »
Is it still a work in progress or does it exist now as a proper car ?

I don't know if this was a picture from when it was originally built or a more recent one during a restoration.
Either way I would say it's a finished car now, if indeed it still exists at all...
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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2014, 12:08:59 PM »
If it's old enough to be the possible subject of a restoration, was it made in the seventies ?

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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2014, 05:28:39 PM »
If it's old enough to be the possible subject of a restoration, was it made in the seventies ?

Sixties or seventies, I'm not sure which but I'll try to check.
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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2014, 05:52:22 AM »
If it's old enough to be the possible subject of a restoration, was it made in the seventies ?

Sixties or seventies, I'm not sure which but I'll try to check.

Actually it was rather later than I thought, so newer than sixties or seventies.
The puzzle photo is therefore most probably the car under construction, not being restored.
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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2014, 07:27:51 AM »
Is it one of those classic Ferrari replicas built on "cheaper" Ferrari chassis (like 250 GTE) or is the mechanical basis different  ?

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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2014, 07:31:47 AM »
Is it one of those classic Ferrari replicas built on "cheaper" Ferrari chassis (like 250 GTE) or is the mechanical basis different  ?

No, the mechanical base is not a Ferrari.
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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2014, 07:46:58 AM »
Is it supposed to be the replica of a precise Ferrari model or is it more an evocation ? The body looks like a mix of 250 GTO and 275 GTB.

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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2014, 08:52:30 AM »
Is it supposed to be the replica of a precise Ferrari model or is it more an evocation ? The body looks like a mix of 250 GTO and 275 GTB.

It's not meant to be a replica as such; just someone's idea of one
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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2014, 12:15:57 PM »
Is the mechanical base a single donor car or is it a mix of bits and pieces ?

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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2014, 04:00:24 PM »
Is the mechanical base a single donor car or is it a mix of bits and pieces ?

Believe it's a single donor.
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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2014, 08:10:11 AM »
This will be solved before the day's out now it's in the hands of the Pro's...
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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2014, 08:16:58 AM »
Ferrari GTO styled car by Ferris de Joux.
Jaguar powered.
I found it while checking out another de Joux puzzle.

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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2014, 10:20:12 AM »
Ferrari GTO styled car by Ferris de Joux.
Jaguar powered.
I found it while checking out another de Joux puzzle.

That's the car, yes, but I have as powered by something other than Jaguar..
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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2014, 09:30:49 PM »
Powered by an Alfa Romeo engine.

Ferris de Joux Alfa GTO he started building it with Neil Fraser in the '90s.

This wasn't easy to find, only incidentally mentioned in a forum about another car that somebody thought might be the de Joux Alfa GTO.

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Re: NEH 3663
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2014, 05:34:40 AM »
Powered by an Alfa Romeo engine.

Ferris de Joux Alfa GTO he started building it with Neil Fraser in the '90s.

This wasn't easy to find, only incidentally mentioned in a forum about another car that somebody thought might be the de Joux Alfa GTO.

That's right; that's the site I got the picture from but I haven't been able to find anything else about it from anywhere else!
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Re: Solved - NEH 3663: De Joux Alfa GTO - 1990s
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2014, 08:19:56 AM »
I did find this suggesting it might be the finished article..:

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