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Solved - NEH 3588: 1965 Eagle Debonaire
« on: July 02, 2014, 07:58:41 AM »
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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2014, 05:00:28 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2014, 07:01:26 AM »
Merlin?

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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2014, 07:04:47 AM »
Clenet?

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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2014, 07:16:00 AM »
Neither Merlin nor Clenet.
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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2014, 10:37:06 AM »
Suffolk Sports Cars SS100
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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2014, 02:46:39 PM »
Suffolk Sports Cars SS100

Not one of those.
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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2014, 05:54:25 PM »
Durow Deluge by Durow Cars?

MG Midget and Ford Granada components.
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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2014, 04:05:41 AM »
Durow Deluge by Durow Cars?

MG Midget and Ford Granada components.

Not one of those either!
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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2014, 03:51:45 AM »
Professionals?
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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2014, 03:56:53 AM »
JBA Falcon?

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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2014, 04:02:57 AM »
From the UK?

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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2014, 06:08:58 AM »
It wasn't built in the UK, ergo not a JBA Falcon.
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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2014, 06:14:40 AM »
Aha, I thought not. The base for the car looks big and powerful - Australian, perhaps?
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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2014, 06:15:32 AM »
Victor?
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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2014, 07:06:17 AM »
Aha, I thought not. The base for the car looks big and powerful - Australian, perhaps?

Not from Oz..

Victor?

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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2014, 07:20:19 AM »
Everson?

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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2014, 07:52:50 AM »
From the USA?  :huh:

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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2014, 08:15:57 AM »
Not Everson; built in the USA, yes, but modified elsewhere!
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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2014, 08:54:48 AM »
Not Everson; built in the USA, yes, but modified elsewhere!

Mustang base?
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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2014, 08:59:15 AM »
Not Everson; built in the USA, yes, but modified elsewhere!

Mustang base?

Partly yes, but just the chassis and not the mechanicals.
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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2014, 02:20:19 PM »
1965 Eagle Debonaire.  A US built custom on a Mustang chassis powered by a small block Chevrolet V8.  Although built in the US, it was modified much later to RHD in the UK, where it is currently for sale.

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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2014, 03:47:46 PM »
Never heard about it. How did you find it?

What is the manufacturer of this car? Which company?


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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2014, 01:57:04 AM »
@ Arunas:  I never heard of the Eagle Debonaire either, and normally I don't deal with relatively modern limited production, or non production models (early 20th century cars are a different animal in that many never achieved mass production).  However, in this case, I made an exception after the Clenet marque was raised, but ruled out.  Back in the late '60s and early '70s, I was fascinated by the various retro replicas which were very popular at the time.  Marques like Excalibur, Corsair, Gazelle and Zimmer, as well as the aforementioned Clenet were very popular here in the US at that time, and I knew several people who owned them, although they were beyond my economic means. 

With this in mind, and noting that the car was RHD and shown on the left side of a roadway, I made the usual assumption that the car was from the UK.  But the UK (and Australia) were already ruled out as originators with the US established as the origin, but "modified elsewhere".  So, I thought, perhaps the elsewhere is the UK.  Because a frequent source of puzzle cars is from "For Sale" ads, I decided to spend a bit of time looking at exotic cars for sale in the UK, using a well known UK  website for classic car ads (name provided via PM upon request).  Luckily it didn't take too long to run across the Eagle Debonaire, which looked like the puzzle car, but the pictures provided were not the same (completely different background).  However Googling "1965 Eagle Debonaire" quickly yielded the puzzle matching photographs from another ad magazine.  This confirmed that the puzzle car was indeed a (the?) 1965 Eagle Debonaire.

All I know about the car is what is given in the advertising information, although I haven't spent a great deal of time attempting to gather information beyond that required for the puzzle solution (the already established Mustang chassis and Chevrolet V8 power).  The information did say that the car was the idea of a wealthy American who had ideas of producing cars of this type, but it is implied that he never got beyond one car.  Whether he built it himself, or commissioned it from an established company is not revealed in anything that I have seen.

Hopefully this answers your questions.     
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Re: NEH 3588
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2014, 04:38:32 AM »
You're right of course Sherlock..

This is the info I have about it:

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The 1965 Eagle was the brainchild of a wealthy American with a view to being a small car manufacturer of stylish motor cars.
The car was built for the US market and sold to a Japanese collector, where it was placed in a museum for a number of years.  The car was sold to an enthusiast in the UK and converted to right hand drive.  The car's set-up was improved by very capable and knowledgeable engineers in the UK, where the car was UK registered in 2002.

The stylish design steel-bodied roadster is a car which is admired everywhere it goes.
Running on a Ford Mustang steel chassis and rear axle and suspension.  Powered by a 4.7 Chevy small block with Holley carburettor with a GM three-speed automatic gearbox, so lots of power with little effort.
The front suspension is Jaguar XJS with power steering and very good power-assisted braking system.
The car is full of interesting options, leather interior, mohair hood, OZ split rim wheels and purpose-built stainless steel exhaust.
UNQUOTE

As noted it's For Sale should anyone feel the desire to buy it..
It is at least unique!
There was no mention of who actually built the car in the first place, or the name of the "wealthy American" whose brainchild it was.

In the end it proved a bit easier to solve than I though it would; maybe I should give less helpful answers!
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