Author Topic: Solved - NEH 3528: MG Special based on 1932/3 L1 with Ford 1172cc engine  (Read 762 times)

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I didn't expect to get a point for that !  I was grasping for straws, quite frankly. Even with the confirmed info, I still can't find the original image - don't worry, I don't expect you to reveal your sources!

I would assume the car was built in the 50s - the background looks around that era - and the young builder was using bits and pieces he'd found in a garage or scrapyard. A good effort.
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Congratulations Carnut for the puzzle and Nicanaryfor solving it,  I was going crazy with this puzzle I had tried all MG type I know including magna ones and all combinations that came to my mind but I could not find it.

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Re: NEH 3528
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2014, 02:43:59 PM »
Crikey, this is a strange one. L-type Magna ?

Yes, the base is L-type from 1932 (L1 to be precise; were they all referred to as Magnas?)
So I think that answers all the questions and the point can be awarded.
Well done and sorry Allan.
That's o.k  since I remembered that the L1 had 12" brakes and was introduced in 1933, I was never going to get the "correct" answer, was I?
The F and L series were "Magnas" and the K and N (and KN) series were "Magnettes"
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I didn't expect to get a point for that !  I was grasping for straws, quite frankly. Even with the confirmed info, I still can't find the original image - don't worry, I don't expect you to reveal your sources!

I would assume the car was built in the 50s - the background looks around that era - and the young builder was using bits and pieces he'd found in a garage or scrapyard. A good effort.

Yes, it's a pity that the puzzle was 'solved' without you actually finding the car, but I really couldn't ask for anything else as I didn't know who built it or when.. 

This is the only information available about it on the site where I found the picture:

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My brother and I rebuilt it. It was basically an 1932 MG L.1 chassis with a Ford 1172 twin SU carb engine. The rad cowl came off a Bradford van and the body was aluminium and we finished it in Bugatti Blue . It went very well but used to fill up with water in thunderstorms.  I've always loved open cars and I still drive an MX.5 as well as my Volvo estates.
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Yes, well, the builder may well have been misinformed.
As I wrote before, the L came in in 1933 and one original feature that is visible is the brake size which is 8" whereas the L had 12" as did the F2 & F3. Scale 'em to the 19" wheels if you can be bothered and don't believe me.
The other possibly original bits are the wings which are just like the J2 and F1 and I can't recall seeing a cycle-winged L type.
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Yes, well, the builder may well have been misinformed.
As I wrote before, the L came in in 1933 and one original feature that is visible is the brake size which is 8" whereas the L had 12" as did the F2 & F3. Scale 'em to the 19" wheels if you can be bothered and don't believe me.
The other possibly original bits are the wings which are just like the J2 and F1 and I can't recall seeing a cycle-winged L type.

As you know, one of the problems with a site like AP is that the puzzles are only as good as the information available. I'm sure "carnut" does what I do, and tries to find as much about the car as possible before posting, just in case he's made to look an idiot by someone else who knows more. It's happened to me. Egg on face moments.

I've got a puzzle in the Pros at the moment where it's quite possible nobody will ever solve it - I know the answer, but that's all. I know absolutely nothing else about the car. It's a moot point whether we include such puzzles or not, but I suppose there are plenty in the Black Hole simply because even the puzzle-setter doesn't know what it is. I have no idea whether this is right or wrong.

We use information from the web. The web is full of BS as well as some good stuff. Hey ho.

(PS I think it's great that we've got someone like Allan on AP who really knows his veteran/vintage/PVT cars, because he can help us with things like this. I hadn't got a clue what I was talking about, and I'm perfectly happy to have a point deducted. I feel like Arjen Robben  ;D )
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(PS I think it's great that we've got someone like Allan on AP who really knows his veteran/vintage/PVT cars, because he can help us with things like this. I hadn't got a clue what I was talking about, and I'm perfectly happy to have a point deducted. I feel like Arjen Robben  ;D )
I'm not that well-informed y'know. When I realise how little I know about what I know most about, I'm quite embarrassed.
I think I know the detail of those MGs because when I had an M type as my first car and I thought I'd work my way up the heirarchy I did the research (aided by the college car-park of the day where examples of most o.h.c. MGs could be found).

In the case we were trying to identify, the chap who built it probably used what was available and only had what the vendor (probably the local scrappie) told him as information.
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I really know very little about cars from that era, I just like good puzzles..
It's not uncommon at all for people not to know much about their own car, so I'm not entirely surprised the info is a bit inaccurate.
So we get it right then Allan, can you tell me exactly what the caption should say, or should I just leave it as it is but put it in inverted commas with a question mark?  Maybe I should give you a point too!
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Unless we find the car in the metal we cannot really get it right.
I think referring to is as "1932 L1" as you suggest shows that the only known description is thought to be faulty.

We've had other cases where the "right answer" could be shown to be wrong and there are bound to be more.

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