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Solved - NEH 3206: TJB Design Delkit Camino prototype
« on: January 07, 2014, 07:17:34 AM »
Identify this car, who made it and what it is based on, for 1 point:

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Re: NEH 3206
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2014, 05:59:45 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NEH 3206
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2014, 11:46:23 AM »
Is it an Austin Mini under the body?

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Re: NEH 3206
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2014, 11:47:14 AM »
Is it an Austin Mini under the body?

No..
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Re: NEH 3206
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2014, 01:21:30 PM »
Delkit Camino, Ford Cortina based.

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Re: NEH 3206
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2014, 06:29:34 AM »
Delkit Camino, Ford Cortina based.

That's the car, although I have a slightly different name for it; ***** Camino (don't count the stars).
Locked for you to come up with the name I have.
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Re: NEH 3206
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2014, 07:22:13 AM »
Could it be Derek? From what I've found, that was the first name of
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Re: NEH 3206
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2014, 07:41:47 AM »
Could it be Derek? From what I've found, that was the first name of
+ Attachments and other options the designer.

No, that's not what I'm looking for.
It may not actually be part of the car's name but answers the question "who made it?"; it actually refers to who was responsible for the design and manufacture of the body.
Still locked for you.
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Re: NEH 3206
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2014, 02:58:53 PM »
Well, i found two sources that probably contain the information, but I'd have to purchase them, so unlock.

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Re: NEH 3206
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2014, 04:17:19 AM »
OK, open to all Rookies and Experts..
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Re: NEH 3206
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2014, 02:08:30 AM »
Delkit Camino (UK) based on the Mk III or Mk IV Cortina ,6 cars.

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Re: NEH 3206
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2014, 10:38:41 AM »
Delkit Camino (UK) based on the Mk III or Mk IV Cortina ,6 cars.

I still have a different name for it (nothing's changed..)

Delkit Camino, Ford Cortina based.

That's the car, although I have a slightly different name for it; ***** Camino (don't count the stars).
Locked for you to come up with the name I have.
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Re: NEH 3206
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2014, 05:44:25 AM »
A quick google shows this photo in a brochure for the Delkit Camino.

The picture also features in a web page for TJB Design, a GRP company, who state "TJB Design designed and manufactured the patterns, moulds and first prototype."  One could say that TJB Design 'made it' but I would contend that they are a subcontractor in the same way as Williams and Pritchard built the bodies for many 1950s British one-offs and limited production cars.  You can't compare them to an Italian carrozzerie

The photo is probably of the prototype, but it is still the prototype Delkit Camino so I think ptnbr's answer is correct.

(By the way, did you know that "Camino Cortina" is a property development in Camarillo, California)  ;)
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Re: NEH 3206
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2014, 11:22:58 AM »
A quick google shows this photo in a brochure for the Delkit Camino.

The picture also features in a web page for TJB Design, a GRP company, who state "TJB Design designed and manufactured the patterns, moulds and first prototype."  One could say that TJB Design 'made it' but I would contend that they are a subcontractor in the same way as Williams and Pritchard built the bodies for many 1950s British one-offs and limited production cars.  You can't compare them to an Italian carrozzerie

The photo is probably of the prototype, but it is still the prototype Delkit Camino so I think ptnbr's answer is correct.

(By the way, did you know that "Camino Cortina" is a property development in Camarillo, California)  ;)

TJB Design is the name I was looking for as they claim they designed and made the puzzle car, whatever it was called by the makers of subsequent models!
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Re: Solved - NEH 3206: TJB Design Camino
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2014, 12:20:15 PM »
I think we're at cross purposes here.  As I understand it, the car was conceived by Delkit who commissioned TJB Designs to produce the bodies and design the tooling to do so.  I don't think that TJB conceived the car and sold the rights to Delkit. 

The TJB website refers to the Camino and to the Reliant Robin on the page headed "Complete Car Bodies" - ie they don't claim credit for design of the car.  I'm sure you wouldn't call the three-wheeled car a TJB Design Robin would you?

If my assumptions are correct then the car can only be called a Delkit.

As I said previously, the cars sold by Brian Lister's company were always Listers, no matter who built or designed the bodies for Lister.  They were never called Wakefield, or Williams & Pritchard
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Re: Solved - NEH 3206: TJB Design Camino
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2014, 11:09:09 AM »
I think we're at cross purposes here.  As I understand it, the car was conceived by Delkit who commissioned TJB Designs to produce the bodies and design the tooling to do so.  I don't think that TJB conceived the car and sold the rights to Delkit. 

The TJB website refers to the Camino and to the Reliant Robin on the page headed "Complete Car Bodies" - ie they don't claim credit for design of the car.  I'm sure you wouldn't call the three-wheeled car a TJB Design Robin would you?

If my assumptions are correct then the car can only be called a Delkit.

As I said previously, the cars sold by Brian Lister's company were always Listers, no matter who built or designed the bodies for Lister.  They were never called Wakefield, or Williams & Pritchard

I'll have to check into it all when I get back from my travels next weekend.  I think I got the info from TJB's website and rather thought they were promoting it as 'theirs' but I may be wrong.
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Re: Solved - NEH 3206: TJB Design Camino
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2014, 07:18:12 AM »
I've looked into this one and my answers as promised.
One of my original questions was 'who made it' - meaning, of course, who made the car pictured, not who went on to produce or market the car.
Since on the TJB Design website it says "Kit car project for which TJB Design designed and manufactured the patterns, moulds and first prototype." and as the picture shows, I believe, the first prototype, it follows that the car in the puzzle (not subsequent cars) was made by TJB Design.

I'll concede the the car was eventually called Delkit Camino, but that was not what I was asking.

This is of course AutoPuzzles where we may ask specifics, not general questions.

Your analogy of the Reliant Robin is incorrect, as of course you wouldn't call the production Robin anything but a Reliant, but the same rule applies to this car.  As I understand it this car is not a Delkit Camino but the TJB Design Camino prototype.  I may be wrong of course but it's my puzzle and I deem the right answer to have been given (by you of course!)
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