solved: ig_193 - 1965 Ulyanovets (Ульяновец)

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Quote from: 4popoid on July 06, 2013, 01:43:49 AM
1963 Syrian (difficult for English name to be determined) Land Rover Series II clone on GAZ/UAZ base?
Yes, GAZ-based..
..and the year is incorrect.

4popoid

I only said 1963 because you said that it was built "some 50 years ago".  Since it looks like a Series II. it would have to be after 1958, and I would guess it was prior to the Series IIA, which would make it prior to 1961.  I'm guessing that the chassis is a GAZ-69, but, unless it was not new (prior to 1954), this date range would make it a UAZ-69.  So lets say the puzzle car is a: 1959/1960 Syrian (difficult for English name to be determined) Land Rover Series II clone on a UAZ (GAZ)-69 base.

dzima1985

Quote from: 4popoid on July 06, 2013, 02:54:50 AM
I only said 1963 because you said that it was built "some 50 years ago".  Since it looks like a Series II. it would have to be after 1958, and I would guess it was prior to the Series IIA, which would make it prior to 1961.  I'm guessing that the chassis is a GAZ-69, but, unless it was not new (prior to 1954), this date range would make it a UAZ-69.  So lets say the puzzle car is a: 1959/1960 Syrian (difficult for English name to be determined) Land Rover Series II clone on a UAZ (GAZ)-69 base.
you are right, GAZ 69-based..
.. from 1965.  ;)

4popoid

OK, so now we have a: 1965 Syrian (difficult for English name) Land Rover Series II clone on a GAZ-69 base. If I understand correctly, all I am lacking is that "difficult for English" name.  I need to narrow the field a bit, so, if the vehicle is from Syria, can I assume the name is in Arabic?

dzima1985

Quote from: 4popoid on July 06, 2013, 03:15:35 AM
I need to narrow the field a bit, so, if the vehicle is from Syria, can I assume the name is in Arabic?
..not Arabic name

4popoid

Big surprise, not Arabic!  If the name is "very difficult for English", I have to assume that it is not English. so what language could it be?  Since the chassis is a GAZ-69, is the name Russian?

dzima1985

Quote from: 4popoid on July 06, 2013, 01:45:00 PM
Big surprise, not Arabic!  If the name is "very difficult for English", I have to assume that it is not English. so what language could it be?  Since the chassis is a GAZ-69, is the name Russian?
Russian name, yes!

4popoid

I am having no luck tying a GAZ-69 chassis to any sort of Syrian product, and thus coming up with a Russian name for the puzzle car.  The only possible name (and it's a very remote possibility) for a GAZ-69 that I can find, is a single internet reference which refers to the original GAZ-69 prototypes of the late 1940's as "Truzenik".  The reference site refers to Truzenik as "worker".  Truzenik doesn't translate from Russian to English in Google Transate, but it is suggested that I might be referring to "Труженик", which it says is pronounced "Truzhenik", and it translates as "toiler".  Since "worker" and "toiler" bear some resemblance I will guess that "Труженик" is what my reference was citing.     

While 1965 is a long way from the late 1940's, perhaps the original prototype name was carried over to the new Syrian prototype.  From this, I will guess that the name that I am searching for might be: "Труженик" or "Truzhenik", making the puzzle car a: 1965 Syrian (UAZ) Труженик (or Truzhenik) on a UAZ (GAZ)-69 base.

dzima1985

Quote from: 4popoid on July 06, 2013, 06:31:31 PM
I am having no luck tying a GAZ-69 chassis to any sort of Syrian product, and thus coming up with a Russian name for the puzzle car.  The only possible name (and it's a very remote possibility) for a GAZ-69 that I can find, is a single internet reference which refers to the original GAZ-69 prototypes of the late 1940's as "Truzenik".  The reference site refers to Truzenik as "worker".  Truzenik doesn't translate from Russian to English in Google Transate, but it is suggested that I might be referring to "Труженик", which it says is pronounced "Truzhenik", and it translates as "toiler".  Since "worker" and "toiler" bear some resemblance I will guess that "Труженик" is what my reference was citing.     

While 1965 is a long way from the late 1940's, perhaps the original prototype name was carried over to the new Syrian prototype.  From this, I will guess that the name that I am searching for might be: "Труженик" or "Truzhenik", making the puzzle car a: 1965 Syrian (UAZ) Труженик (or Truzhenik) on a UAZ (GAZ)-69 base.
Good version, but it's not Truzhenik.
.. the car's name is associated with Lenin.  ;)

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dzima1985


4popoid

Volodya (Володя)?

dzima1985


4popoid

How about Comrade (товарищ)?  I don't know that it is particularly associated with Lenin, but it sounds like the perfect name for a "go anywhere" vehicle.

dzima1985

Quote from: 4popoid on July 07, 2013, 07:05:59 AM
How about Comrade (товарищ)?  I don't know that it is particularly associated with Lenin, but it sounds like the perfect name for a "go anywhere" vehicle.
Not Comrade..

The car's name is directly connected with the surname of this man..
(the last hint - with the real surname ..)

4popoid

Ulyanov (Ульянов)?

dzima1985

Quote from: 4popoid on July 07, 2013, 07:16:25 AM
Ulyanov (Ульянов)?
The first 5 letters of the your version is right! Improvise with the name..
LOCKED for 4popoid..

4popoid

Hmmmmm, this could be tough for a person who knows absolutely no Russian, and I can't get in touch with my niece who speaks Russian fluently.  How about Ulyanich (Ульянич)?

dzima1985

Quote from: 4popoid on July 07, 2013, 01:16:05 PM
How about Ulyanich (Ульянич)?
.. another attempt..

4popoid

I'm sorry dzima, but I am at a loss as to what the Russian name might be.  I was able to contact my Russian speaking niece, but she wasn't able to offer many suggestions, for she says the possibilities are nearly endless, especially without knowing the total number of letters in the name, even though the first five are known.

I will make another try, but it is really just a guess, based on a potential suggestion that my niece made.  I will try: Ulyanin or Ulyanina (Ульянин) as I understand, although it is not a direct translation, can be related to "test".  My thought is that this vehicle was a prototype, and might thus be called a test.

dzima1985

Quote from: 4popoid on July 08, 2013, 02:35:01 AM
I'm sorry dzima, but I am at a loss as to what the Russian name might be.  I was able to contact my Russian speaking niece, but she wasn't able to offer many suggestions, for she says the possibilities are nearly endless, especially without knowing the total number of letters in the name, even though the first five are known.

I will make another try, but it is really just a guess, based on a potential suggestion that my niece made.  I will try: Ulyanin or Ulyanina (Ульянин) as I understand, although it is not a direct translation, can be related to "test".  My thought is that this vehicle was a prototype, and might thus be called a test.
Guess the last two letters.
This will be your last attempt (one point you earn  :D)

faksta

Quote from: 4popoid on July 07, 2013, 01:16:05 PM
Hmmmmm, this could be tough for a person who knows absolutely no Russian, and I can't get in touch with my niece who speaks Russian fluently.  How about Ulyanich (Ульянич)?

Oh, I imagined the faces of Soviet officials as they react to 'Ulyanich' as a car's name back in 1965 :D

4popoid

This one is pure guesswork, with no logic.  How about: Ulyanik (Ульяник)?

dzima1985

Quote from: 4popoid on July 08, 2013, 11:59:44 AM
This one is pure guesswork, with no logic.  How about: Ulyanik (Ульяник)?
Not, but.. one point for you..

Tell me the name. Unlocked for all!

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