Author Topic: Solved: A Nice Pair (Read 2415 times)

4popoid · « **Reply #50 on:** November 15, 2014, 02:15:35 AM »

Rats, I liked that Howard scenario. Alright, let;s try:

Car 9: A Niesner, manufactured in Vienna, from about 1908. - Place 4: A scene from the 1949 British film "The Third Man" which was filmed on location in early postwar Vienna. The connection is the car was manufactured in Vienna, and the film was shot (manufactured) in Vienna.

Wendax · « **Reply #51 on:** November 15, 2014, 03:37:24 AM »

Car 9 is not a Niesner

4popoid · « **Reply #52 on:** November 15, 2014, 01:40:45 PM »

You didn't say in your opening posting whether you would answer questions regarding individual components (car - place) in order to establish their idinity so they can be paired. If you will, is Car 9 a European marque?

Wendax · « **Reply #53 on:** November 15, 2014, 02:54:00 PM »

Ask whatever you like. The only questions I won't answer are those regarding the connection before car and place are positively identified.

Car 9 is from Europe, but may prove tricky.

4popoid · « **Reply #54 on:** November 15, 2014, 03:41:23 PM »

The picture for Car 9 looks strange, especially the wheels which look out of proportion to the rest of the car. Is Car 9 much newer than it appears, and thus perhaps a not particularly accurate replicar, child's car or homebuilt?

Wendax · « **Reply #55 on:** November 15, 2014, 03:43:35 PM »

You made a fine observation, but haven't come to the right conclusion so far.

4popoid · « **Reply #56 on:** November 15, 2014, 03:47:48 PM »

Is it a model or toy?

Wendax · « **Reply #57 on:** November 15, 2014, 03:49:00 PM »

4popoid · « **Reply #58 on:** November 15, 2014, 05:37:25 PM »

So, if this vehicle is not much newer than it appears, and not a replicar, child's car, homebuilt, toy or model, am I to conclude that this is in fact a picture or drawing of a production car (or pre-production prototype), that is about the age that it appears (about 1910)?

Wendax · « **Reply #59 on:** November 16, 2014, 01:54:06 AM »

1910 is too early, and there is still something extraordinary about that car.

Tom_I · « **Reply #60 on:** November 16, 2014, 10:34:23 AM »

I'm not sure, but I might have made a bit of progress on the pairing of Car 9 and Place 4.

It's been established that Place 4 is a still from the 1949 film The Third Man. It shows Trevor Howard as Major Calloway sitting in the Zentralfriedhof (Central Cemetery) in Vienna. In fact he may well be sitting in Shepperton Studios in London, where they built a set to re-create part of the cemetery, but I won't argue about that.

Despite its name, the cemetery is not in the centre of Vienna, but in an outer city district called Simmering, which is also an industrial area.

The wheels on Car 4 look odd, and for a time I wondered if they might have electric motors built into them, but then it also struck me that the car does not seem to have a steering wheel. So I think it may be a draisine, a light vehicle intended to run on railway lines.

I haven't been able to find the puzzle picture, but I found the photo below, which has enough points of similarity for it to be worth a try. The book I found the photo in says it was made by the Simmeringer Waggonfabrik in 1925. I'm not certain, but I think this is the company whose full name was Maschinen- und Waggonbaufabrik AG, of Wien-Simmering.

So I offer Simmering as the link, with something less than total confidence.

Wendax · « **Reply #61 on:** November 16, 2014, 10:40:09 AM »

That's some fine sleuthing. Well done!

4popoid · « **Reply #62 on:** November 16, 2014, 02:23:55 PM »

Well now that Tom_I has done a masterful job with Car 9 (I was nowhere close), I'll move on.

Car 6 looks like a Citroen 2CV (originally manufactured in Paris) modified into a roadster, and Place 5 has already been identified as Passage Cottin in Paris. So I'll guess that these two are a pair, with the connection being Paris.

Wendax · « **Reply #63 on:** November 16, 2014, 03:20:30 PM »

Car 6 is not Citroen 2CV-related.

4popoid · « **Reply #64 on:** November 16, 2014, 03:27:48 PM »

Is Car 12 a kitcar, possibly from the UK?

Wendax · « **Reply #65 on:** November 16, 2014, 03:31:52 PM »

Not a kitcar, but from the UK.

4popoid · « **Reply #66 on:** November 16, 2014, 04:40:19 PM »

A very wild guess.

Car 12 bears some resemblance to a Shark, by Classic Motors of Plymouth, Devon, UK. - Place 9 looks like it could be somewhere in the southwest UK, perhaps Devon. Therefore I'll try: Car 12 - Place 9, with the connection being Devon, UK.

Wendax · « **Reply #67 on:** November 16, 2014, 04:47:32 PM »

Car 12 is not a Shark.
Place 9 is in Devon, but that is not precise enough.

4popoid · « **Reply #68 on:** November 17, 2014, 12:05:23 AM »

Place 9 looks like a smallish river town. If the area is Devon, perhaps Place 9 is Dartmouth on the River Dart? If so, perhaps Car 12 could be a Daimler Dart, with the connection being Dart.

Wendax · « **Reply #69 on:** November 17, 2014, 02:22:36 AM »

Yes, it is the River Dart near Dartmouth, and the car is a modified Daimler Dart aka SP 250.

That leaves just one pair, of which the place is already identified. Who will find out about the car and the connection?

Oguerrerob · « **Reply #70 on:** November 17, 2014, 02:54:44 AM »

Car 6 V.E.L. 1948 by G.M. Renaud. Adressed Passage Cottin Paris and Place 5 Passage Cottin Paris

Wendax · « **Reply #71 on:** November 17, 2014, 03:10:47 AM »

Yes!

All pairs found now.

Wendax · « **Reply #72 on:** November 17, 2014, 03:15:06 AM »

The total:

4popoid: 5 points
Tom_I: 2 points
Ehhxekt: 1 point
Oguerrerob: 1 point
oko94: 1 point
targhediferro: 1 point
ValkyrieGT: 1 point

Well done, gentlemen! I hope you enjoyed this one as much as I did.

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