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Title: SAC#673 :"little jimmy " 1949 by Craig Miller of Rootes with a VW rear engine
Post by: SACO on March 09, 2014, 03:21:28 AM
What's this and from when , for 1 point !  :)
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Post by: SACO on March 17, 2014, 05:50:08 AM
Experts !
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Post by: AlexFrance on March 18, 2014, 10:43:25 AM
Was it made in France?
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Post by: SACO on March 18, 2014, 12:04:18 PM
Not made in France !
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Post by: AlexFrance on March 18, 2014, 01:17:49 PM
From Europe?
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Post by: SACO on March 18, 2014, 01:19:01 PM
Yes !
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Post by: wingroad on March 18, 2014, 05:21:44 PM
British ?
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Post by: SACO on March 19, 2014, 02:08:41 AM
Yes !
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Post by: D-type on March 19, 2014, 03:43:41 AM
Standard Vanguard prototype?
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Post by: SACO on March 19, 2014, 05:31:57 AM
Not Standard Vanguard !
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Post by: frederick59 on March 19, 2014, 06:15:48 AM
Is this car electric powered?
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Post by: SACO on March 19, 2014, 06:47:21 AM
Not electric powered !
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Post by: frederick59 on March 19, 2014, 07:29:27 AM
Austin A40 Devon base?
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Post by: kwgibbs on March 19, 2014, 09:23:57 AM
any ties with triumph?
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Post by: max on March 19, 2014, 09:30:00 AM
Standard 8 prototype?
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Post by: SACO on March 19, 2014, 09:42:54 AM
No relation with Standard and Triumph !
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Post by: Carnut on March 19, 2014, 10:11:29 AM
Austin A40 Devon base?
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Post by: SACO on March 19, 2014, 11:55:57 AM
Not Austin A40 base !
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Post by: wingroad on March 19, 2014, 05:43:46 PM
Jowett ?
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Post by: SACO on March 20, 2014, 02:13:57 AM
Not Jowett !
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Post by: richard cuyler on March 22, 2014, 08:29:55 AM
Is it rear-engined?
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Post by: SACO on March 22, 2014, 08:34:53 AM
Yes !
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Post by: SACO on April 04, 2014, 01:19:01 AM
Pros !
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Post by: nicanary on April 04, 2014, 05:15:19 AM
Was this a prototype from a well-known manufacturer?
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Post by: SACO on April 04, 2014, 06:16:30 AM
Yes !
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Post by: Carnut on April 04, 2014, 06:20:27 AM
Singer?
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Post by: sixtee5cuda on April 04, 2014, 10:18:51 AM
Built before 1950?
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Post by: WayneB on April 04, 2014, 11:47:56 AM
I remember reading that after WWII ended Volkswagen was run by the British for a period.

Is this design proposal some sort of British version of a VW Beetle by Austin?
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Post by: Djetset on April 04, 2014, 12:48:57 PM
Is it a Nuffield Group prototype (i.e. Morris, MG, Riley and Wolseley)?
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Post by: SACO on April 04, 2014, 02:35:20 PM
Locked for Carnut , for more details !
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Post by: Carnut on April 05, 2014, 01:04:48 PM
Locked for Carnut , for more details !

Thanks, so it's a Singer..
Can you leave it with me for a couple of days as I'm not going to get time to research this over the weekend?
Thanks!
Title: Re: SAC#673 : Locked
Post by: SACO on April 05, 2014, 04:40:25 PM
Not really a Singer ; just a Rootes !
OK for the weekend !  :)
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Post by: SACO on April 07, 2014, 08:58:50 AM
Unlocked !
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Post by: Carnut on April 07, 2014, 09:09:36 AM
Unlocked !

OK; I have in fact spent hours scouring the history sites for Singer (before you said it wasn't one...), Hillman, Humber and Sunbeam, but none them even mention such a prototype, never mind picture one..

I'll keep looking but I'm sure one of the ace detectives on this site will just Google the right words to go straight to it..
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Post by: Wendax on April 07, 2014, 09:18:42 AM
Is it the rear engined version of "Little Jim", designed by Craig Miller after WW2 and powered by a VW-derived flat twin?
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Post by: nicanary on April 07, 2014, 03:20:25 PM
Those wheels are 1948/49 Humber Super Snipe. I still can't find the answer though!
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Post by: SACO on April 07, 2014, 04:05:42 PM
Yes ! "little jimmy " 1949 by Craig Miller of Rootes with a VW rear engine !
Another point for Wendax ! :applause:
Title: Re: SAC#673 :"little jimmy " 1949 by Craig Miller of Rootes with a VW rear engine
Post by: Carnut on April 07, 2014, 06:33:55 PM
Interesting, as I Googled for "Little Jimmy" before and just got a picture of a front-engined FWD 2-door car, I believe from 1939.
Even Googling with the answer (in any combination of the words) shows up precisely nothing at all...

Would you mind PMing me the link to the answer please SACO?

Many thanks
Title: Re: SAC#673 :"little jimmy " 1949 by Craig Miller of Rootes with a VW rear engine
Post by: nicanary on April 08, 2014, 04:27:58 AM
I eventually found the website where the car was mentioned, although there was no photo. I knew of the pre-war Little Jim, and I knew that the series of cars leading up to the Imp were often affectionately known as Little Jim even though they were the Apex/Slug prototypes.

So this puzzle car was a new one to me - never heard of it before, which is what is so great about AP. I'm not surprised it was not taken up as an idea - just look at the size of the thing, powered by half a VW in flat-twin format. I doubt if it would get up ANY hill.
Title: Re: SAC#673 :"little jimmy " 1949 by Craig Miller of Rootes with a VW rear engine
Post by: Carnut on April 08, 2014, 04:39:43 AM
I eventually found the website where the car was mentioned, although there was no photo. I knew of the pre-war Little Jim, and I knew that the series of cars leading up to the Imp were often affectionately known as Little Jim even though they were the Apex/Slug prototypes.

So this puzzle car was a new one to me - never heard of it before, which is what is so great about AP. I'm not surprised it was not taken up as an idea - just look at the size of the thing, powered by half a VW in flat-twin format. I doubt if it would get up ANY hill.

Ditto
I don't know how I missed it before, although it was a slightly obscure mention - but it had to be the right answer.
Well done Wendax!
Title: Re: SAC#673 :"little jimmy " 1949 by Craig Miller of Rootes with a VW rear engine
Post by: grobmotorix on April 09, 2017, 02:47:00 AM
I bought two nice photos of this nice car recently:
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Post by: richard cuyler on April 10, 2017, 09:01:10 AM
I think it's really rather nice - you can see why D-Type thought it may have been a Standard Vanguard prototype. Pity it wasn't, it would have avoided us having to look at Walter Belgrove's ungainly blob  :o ;D, with its squashed-up front and rear doors (it may have looked better in two-door form) and its bulky-looking oversized wheels and tyres.

My aunt had one when I was about nine and I do remember, though, it was a full six-seater inside and that the engine had bags of torque. I also recall how slowly it had to be cornered to prevent everyone sliding from side to side on the bench seats and also to avoid hellish tyre-scrubbing noises.

Yes, folks, I was a Fully Fledged Petrol Head even at that tender age and not much got past my observations.....  :D :D ;D ;D
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Post by: grobmotorix on April 10, 2017, 12:15:02 PM
 ;D

Thank you so much for those personal meories... Love it! :thumbsup:
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Post by: Engine Punk on March 06, 2022, 08:49:32 AM
;D

Thank you so much for those personal meories... Love it! :thumbsup:

Would it be okay to feature these pics on my Engine Punk blog, Grobmotorix?

I did some research into Little Jim before and wrote them up here on Engine Punk.

https://anarchadia.blogspot.com/2009/12/vintage-thing-no57-little-jim.html

I have never seen these photos before and am curious to know what else you know about them, just to complete the story of Little Jim. I have been into Hillman Imps for years so the genesis of Slug and Apex prototypes is fairly familiar to me.

At some stage I hope to get to the Rootes archives and see what material that holds on Little Jim or Little Jimmy.

Title: Re: SAC#673 :"little jimmy " 1949 by Craig Miller of Rootes with a VW rear engine
Post by: grobmotorix on March 07, 2022, 11:44:38 AM
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Would it be okay to feature these pics on my Engine Punk blog, Grobmotorix?
Sure - feel free.
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I did some research into Little Jim before and wrote them up here on Engine Punk.

https://anarchadia.blogspot.com/2009/12/vintage-thing-no57-little-jim.html
How could I say no after I have seen you really are deeper into this topic.

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I have never seen these photos before and am curious to know what else you know about them, just to complete the story of Little Jim. I have been into Hillman Imps for years so the genesis of Slug and Apex prototypes is fairly familiar to me.

At some stage I hope to get to the Rootes archives and see what material that holds on Little Jim or Little Jimmy.

I am also quite curious if there might be some additional information out there.
I found and bought thes photos some years ago at a vintage car fair, probably at the Techno Classica in Essen/Germany at an automobilia dealerīs stand from the UK.

Thatīs all...
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Post by: Engine Punk on March 11, 2022, 07:24:38 AM
Thank you. If I uncover any more, I will certainly let you know.