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Opel with bodywork designed by N² (Ernst Neumann Neander), 1917
« on: November 09, 2014, 12:58:07 PM »
Who knows this beauty?

You can get two points for that:

#1: correct basis car

#2: correct designer
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Re: grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2014, 04:14:42 AM »
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Re: grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2014, 03:09:18 PM »
French chassis?

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Re: grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2014, 03:44:05 PM »
Both chassis and bodywork are not french.

But geographically you´re close ;)

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Re: grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2014, 01:46:49 PM »
It's a reach, but... is the chassis Belgian?

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Re: grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2014, 02:47:48 PM »
The chassis stems from the bigger neighbor country of both named countries.. ;)

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Re: grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2014, 11:15:58 AM »
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Re: grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2014, 12:04:52 PM »
German marque?

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Re: grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2014, 12:14:33 PM »
Yes.

Both chassis and the designer were German.

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Re: grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2014, 12:45:29 PM »
Stoewer D3?

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Re: grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2014, 02:32:35 PM »
It´s not a Stoewer.

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Re: grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2014, 04:21:32 PM »
Rabag from about 1926?

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Re: grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2014, 04:48:31 PM »
Szawe ?

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Re: grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2014, 05:11:04 PM »
Rabag
Stoewer
Szawe


The make is still very well known.

And the designer is named here at autopuzzles several times.

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Re: grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2014, 05:34:34 PM »
1919 Maybach W1 designed by Karl Maybach?

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Re: grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2014, 05:51:42 PM »
Audi?

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Re: grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2014, 06:39:25 PM »
Schebera by Ernst Neumann-Neander, from about 1926?

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Re: grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2014, 06:43:42 PM »
LOCKED for 4popoid!

It is indeed a N² (Neumann Neander) design.

Now I need the correct chassis make and a reasonable year and the point is yours!

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Re: LOCKED for 4popoid / grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2014, 08:58:48 PM »
Thanks for the lock grob.  We have already ruled out many of the chassis associated with Ernst Neumann-Neander, and you say that "the make is still very well known", which I assume to mean that it is a current make.  It has been established that it is a German chassis, and that radiator is pretty distinctive, so I will say: A Mercedes chassis from about 1922. 

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Re: LOCKED for 4popoid / grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2014, 10:36:51 AM »
Audi
Maybach
Mercedes
Rabag
Stoewer
Szawe


I´d say you´ve got two more tries, O.K.?

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Re: LOCKED for 4popoid / grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2014, 02:40:04 PM »
Thanks for the lock extension, grob.  You didn't say whether my interpretation of your comment ("the make is still very well known") indicates that the brand name is still in production, so I will assume that it is, unless instructed otherwise.  If this is a well known German brand that is still active, the possibilities are limited to a very few.  Audi and Mercedes have been eliminated, Porsche and Volkswagen are too new for the puzzle car, so  I believe only BMW and Opel remain.  That distinctive radiator shell doesn't look like any early BMW that I have seen, but it could be an Opel from the early 1920's.  Therefore I'll try Opel from about 1922.     

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Re: LOCKED for 4popoid / grob 2014_11_09 (1)
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2014, 02:59:33 PM »
Bam!

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You didn't say whether my interpretation of your comment ("the make is still very well known") indicates that the brand name is still in production, so I will assume that it is, unless instructed otherwise.

I did this with intention and you were right!

I do not know the exact Opel model, but now this is O.K. with me for the 2 points.

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Re: Opel with bodywork designed by N² (Ernst Neumann Neander), 1917
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2014, 03:06:06 PM »
I am not sure if this remarkable bodywork was executed by Schebera.
I know a very similar Neander design based upon an Austro Daimler chassis
that was built by the austrian coachbuilding company Armbruster.

This Opel might be a 40/100PS type?

Hopefully someone might know more details and maybe there are some more photos available of this beauty?
« Last Edit: November 21, 2014, 03:08:52 PM by grobmotorix »

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Re: Opel with bodywork designed by N² (Ernst Neumann Neander), 1917
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2014, 06:31:07 PM »
After some deeper digging, I think, this is the same car:

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Re: Opel with bodywork designed by N² (Ernst Neumann Neander), 1917
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2014, 05:50:43 AM »
What does it say on the last picture: Karosserie ...?