Author Topic: JPG #163 Solved : 1948 Nardi-Danese "Marco" Cabriolet by Bertone  (Read 3521 times)

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For one point, please identify this car, the coachbuilder and the year :

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2011, 01:54:14 AM »
by Bertone ?

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2011, 09:13:46 AM »
I was under the impression that this was was still 'unknown'??

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2011, 09:36:30 AM »
Yes,by Bertone.

I was under the impression that this was was still 'unknown'??

I think,I know what it's. ::)

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2011, 10:42:55 AM »
Is it the Healey 2.4 litre Cabriolet from 1948 ?

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2011, 10:55:31 AM »
Is it the Healey 2.4 litre Cabriolet from 1948 ?

Yes! I believe so.A different one,later in 1948 Bertone made some 100 bodies on the Healey chassis.

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2011, 12:31:33 PM »
This Healey is different ,and less long  ???

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2011, 01:55:21 PM »
Stanquellini, made by Bertone (1947-1954)

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2011, 01:56:02 PM »
And the name of the car was 1100 Berlinetta

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2011, 02:30:37 PM »
This car was shown in the movie "Cinque poveri in automobile" where it was the main lottery prize.  However, the discussion about it at the IMCDb site, where numerous photos can be found, doesn't make clear what it is, even if it points the long wheelbase.  The upper logo looks like a "N", but this doesn't help me very much.

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2011, 02:59:28 PM »
Some same Bertone's front vue :
« Last Edit: August 04, 2011, 03:02:01 PM by SACO »

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2011, 03:20:13 PM »
Stanguellini..it's another option,but a Cabriolet???

The second badge looks like this one :
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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2011, 05:09:32 PM »
I was wrong, it is a Bertone Healey 1948

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2011, 04:03:22 PM »
I would like to hear the Pros.

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2011, 01:07:22 AM »
Seems to be 1949 Simca Bertone 1200 Cabriolet Tassi & Rivoli

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2011, 01:39:51 PM »
At the IMCDb forum, DynaMike insisted that "Wheelbase is much too long to be a Simca" and fqsavoia, who proposed the Simca 1200 answer, just replied : "I'm quite sure that's a Bertone coachwork, and a Simca nose but, you're right, i didn't notice the huge wheelbase...."  No more comments were given on this forum. BTW I'm not sure that Tassi & Rivoli was a carrozzeria : an article of the review Comunismo (n. 40 - giugno 1996) describes it as an autorimessa.
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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2011, 01:48:41 PM »
You're right pguillem.

Als15 where are you?  :)

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2011, 05:16:54 PM »
Nice to see my imcdb-comment on autopuzzles :)
I thought the wheelbase might match with a Lancia Aurelia, but no idea how to find confirmation about that...

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2011, 08:32:10 AM »
A logo on the steering wheel and an other on the seat ?

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2011, 01:09:39 PM »
Nardi-Danese Marco with Carrozzeria Bertone body?
« Last Edit: September 18, 2011, 05:22:25 AM by 75america »

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2011, 12:28:10 PM »
It could be!

Everyone agrees that it's a Nardi-Danese?

Nice find 75america!

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2011, 01:11:43 PM »
Strange.  The Nardi-Danese Marco was the subject of Puzzle #1786 and looks completely different.  All I could find on the Net refers to that car, dating from 1947 or 1949 (the answer to the puzzle).

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2011, 02:22:12 PM »
Strange.  The Nardi-Danese Marco was the subject of Puzzle #1786 and looks completely different.  All I could find on the Net refers to that car, dating from 1947 or 1949 (the answer to the puzzle).

I'm not 100% sure that the car I posted and the Autopuzzle car are one and the same, but the only differences between the 2 cars that I notice are the paint color and the hood ornament.  2 things that are rather easy to change.  So my guess is that they are 1 and the same car. 
If my information is correct, the wheelbase of the car is 25(6?)30 mm. 
About the different bodies between this car and Puzzle #1786 gives my source (not the internet) the following explanation:

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Al Circuito del Monrenero, disputato a fine agosto a Livorno, esordģ, con al volante Enrico Nardi, anche la 8 cilindri 1500. Questa vettura, anche se reclamizzata solo sol secondo numero di "Interauto" del 1948, venne trasformata in un lussuoso cabriolet a quattro posti con carrozzeria Bertone per Marco Fabio Crespi, detto Rudy, e dal nome del proprietario derivņ la denominazione di Nardi-Danese Marco.
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Lousy Google translate translation (but the essential part is understandable):

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At Circuit Monrenero, held in late August in Livorno, began with Enrico Nardi steering wheel, even the 8-cylinder 1500. This car, even if only advertised only the second issue of "whole" of 1948, was transformed into a luxurious four-seater cabriolet with Bertone for Marco Fabio Crespi, Rudy said, and the owner's name was derived the name of Marco Nardi-Danese .
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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2011, 09:35:48 PM »
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Al Circuito del Monrenero, disputato a fine agosto a Livorno, esordģ, con al volante Enrico Nardi, anche la 8 cilindri 1500. Questa vettura, anche se reclamizzata solo sol secondo numero di "Interauto" del 1948, venne trasformata in un lussuoso cabriolet a quattro posti con carrozzeria Bertone per Marco Fabio Crespi, detto Rudy, e dal nome del proprietario derivņ la denominazione di Nardi-Danese Marco.
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That's it !

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Re: JPG #163
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2011, 03:51:36 PM »
I think it's solved!

Thanks 75america.