Author Topic: Harkness 120HP racing car by Harry Harkness for the 1904 Gordon Bennett Cup (Read 16218 times)

grobmotorix · « **on:** July 09, 2014, 12:28:41 PM »

Who knows this racecar?

grobmotorix · « **Reply #1 on:** July 10, 2014, 12:31:14 PM »

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mekubb · « **Reply #2 on:** July 17, 2014, 05:08:03 PM »

Italian ?

grobmotorix · « **Reply #3 on:** July 17, 2014, 05:22:13 PM »

Not from Italy.

mekubb · « **Reply #4 on:** July 17, 2014, 05:28:33 PM »

French ?

grobmotorix · « **Reply #5 on:** July 17, 2014, 06:02:56 PM »

Not from France.

D-type · « **Reply #6 on:** July 17, 2014, 06:24:09 PM »

British, ie Brooklands ?

grobmotorix · « **Reply #7 on:** July 18, 2014, 12:16:23 PM »

~~Yes and yes!~~

Sorry, I mixed something up here...

grobmotorix · « **Reply #8 on:** August 09, 2014, 12:40:57 PM »

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nicanary · « **Reply #9 on:** August 20, 2014, 05:56:34 AM »

That building behind the car looks very, very French to me. The shutters and the concierge's entrance door make me think that's a Parisian apartment block.

Is it a British marque owned and driven by a Frenchman ?

grobmotorix · « **Reply #10 on:** August 20, 2014, 12:39:34 PM »

I´m quite sure it not even european.

mekubb · « **Reply #11 on:** August 20, 2014, 03:50:51 PM »

From down under ?

grobmotorix · « **Reply #12 on:** August 20, 2014, 04:01:16 PM »

4popoid · « **Reply #13 on:** August 20, 2014, 04:54:04 PM »

Perhaps one of Louis Zborowski's "Chitty" cars? Maybe a re-bodied Chitty 2, after it was sold to an individual in the USA. I believe it is (was?) in a museum in the USA.

nicanary · « **Reply #14 on:** August 20, 2014, 06:55:56 PM »

I'm sorry, but I'm a bit confused. In reply #7 you said it was British and a Brooklands car. Now you say it is not European.

Can we have this clarified?

grobmotorix · « **Reply #15 on:** August 21, 2014, 01:40:54 PM »

Sorry - my mistake.

To help: it is american.

4popoid · « **Reply #16 on:** August 21, 2014, 07:00:17 PM »

Locomobile?

nicanary · « **Reply #17 on:** August 21, 2014, 07:02:09 PM »

The body style is unusual for an American track car of that period. The bonnet louvres and top vents remind me of the Vanderbilt Cup Simplex - is this a rebodied car of that type?

grobmotorix · « **Reply #18 on:** August 22, 2014, 01:33:44 AM »

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The body style is unusual for an American track car of that period.

That´s why I´ve mixed it up.

I do not have any technical details, sorry.

4popoid · « **Reply #19 on:** August 22, 2014, 02:48:18 AM »

Quote from: 4popoid on August 21, 2014, 07:00:17 PM

Locomobile?

I take it that it is not a Locomobile, so how about a Lozier?

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #20 on:** August 22, 2014, 05:33:30 AM »

The wheels resemble those on a Simplex - but the radiator looks to be too far forward. Perhaps a Simplex fitted with another engine?

nicanary · « **Reply #21 on:** August 22, 2014, 05:50:08 AM »

Quote from: Otto Puzzell on August 22, 2014, 05:33:30 AM

The wheels resemble those on a Simplex - but the radiator looks to be too far forward. Perhaps a Simplex fitted with another engine?

I've just realised that the OP hasn't answered my post #17 - I also thought it might be a Simplex.

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #22 on:** August 22, 2014, 05:58:17 AM »

Oops - I didn't see that. I'm pretty sure you're right. The cooling doors on top of the hood / bonnet are common on Simplex cars of the time.

grobmotorix · « **Reply #23 on:** August 22, 2014, 11:51:41 AM »

Locomobile
Simplex

The photo you showed point into the right direction. Mine was made in 1903 before the qualification for a race.

The driver also gave his name to the car.

And it is not a too well known one...

Allan L · « **Reply #24 on:** August 22, 2014, 01:04:01 PM »

Well, despite the photo of the 1903 GB racer I found looking nothing like this, I'll have to ask if it is Alexander Winton in a Winton before the Long Island trials.

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Author Topic: Harkness 120HP racing car by Harry Harkness for the 1904 Gordon Bennett Cup (Read 16218 times)