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This is a Rolls Royce, but what is its story (model and coachbuilder of course)?
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Re: ES_p15
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2014, 03:36:13 PM »
Looks like a '60 Silver Cloud II

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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2014, 04:36:56 PM »
Sorry but it is not a silver cloud

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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2014, 06:39:18 PM »
Hmmm, I'm having trouble distinguishing it from this one,



Apart from the driving mirrors it looks identical, and those could be market (UK vs. US options). Looks like that central windshield antenna was a 1957-58 design element making it a Silver Cloud I.
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Re: ES_p15
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2014, 04:04:14 AM »
Sorry CrzRsn, as this is autopuzzles, nothing is what it seems, It is a rolls and it  looks like a silver cloud but it is not one of those.  I can give you a clue, it is a rebodied Rolls.

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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2014, 10:55:48 PM »
Hmmmmm. So if its not that, maybe its a 1954 Rolls-Royce Silver Wraith with a body by James Young?
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Re: ES_p15
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2014, 12:40:03 PM »
Sorry the base car is not a Silver Wraith, it is earlier than 1954 and neither by James Joung.

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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2014, 05:09:44 PM »
Hmmm. Ok, question time. Is that marking on the front fender just by the door the coachbuilders signature badge?

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Re: ES_p15
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2014, 05:58:00 PM »
Im not sure but it could be the coachbuilder.

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Re: ES_p15
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2014, 06:58:58 AM »
I am sure experts will give the answer. Experts

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Re: ES_p15
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2014, 08:19:44 AM »
It looks like a 1953 Silver Cloud, but the coachwork from the B-post back has cues of the Mercedes 300 of the same era. Is it by a German coachbuilder? The right-hand-drive confuses the issue a bit, though... ???

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Re: ES_p15
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2014, 12:16:57 PM »
It looks like a 1953 Silver Cloud

A 1953 Silver Cloud really would be unique!
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Re: ES_p15
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2014, 01:28:42 PM »
Mr. Serra, this is one of the best works of your namesake Pedro Serra (maybe family of you?, Spanish coachbuilder based in Barcelona. The vehicle is a Rolls Royce Phantom III of 1937, its owner Count of Mayalde, then mayor of Madrid, asked him to be converted in 1957 as a Silver Cloud style.

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Re: ES_p15
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2014, 04:38:27 AM »
Correct another point for you luisps.

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Re: ES_p15
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2014, 07:37:56 AM »
It looks like a 1953 Silver Cloud

A 1953 Silver Cloud really would be unique!

Indeed it would...... :-[ :-[