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AME GTO, a Porsche 944 based Ferrari Replica
« on: November 12, 2013, 01:58:58 PM »
Who knows this car?
« Last Edit: January 13, 2014, 12:30:33 PM by grobmotorix »

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Re: grob 2013.11.12 (05)
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2013, 05:51:56 PM »
250 gto replica!

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Re: grob 2013.11.12 (05)
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2013, 05:55:22 PM »
Right. That was the obvious part ;)

But designed/built by whom?

What was the basis car?

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Re: grob 2013.11.12 (05)
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2014, 07:20:04 AM »
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Re: grob 2013.11.12 (05)
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2014, 05:04:57 PM »
Better get the ball rolling, its obviously not Nick Masons 250 GTO. :(

Datsun Z  based?

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Re: grob 2013.11.12 (05)
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2014, 06:12:08 PM »
To my best knowlegde the basis car is not a Datsun / Nissan Z.

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Re: grob 2013.11.12 (05)
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2014, 06:40:49 PM »
Porsche 944 based?

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Re: grob 2013.11.12 (05)
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2014, 06:43:21 PM »
Yes. That was the easy part... ;)

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Re: grob 2013.11.12 (05)
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2014, 02:21:35 PM »
Roy Kelly?

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Re: grob 2013.11.12 (05)
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2014, 02:36:25 PM »
No.


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Re: grob 2013.11.12 (05)
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2014, 11:53:23 AM »
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Re: grob 2013.11.12 (05)
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2014, 12:41:33 PM »
Alpha-1 by AME?

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Re: grob 2013.11.12 (05)
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2014, 12:56:10 PM »
We have a winner!

It is indeed a Porsche 944 based Ferrari replica.

This very car might be something special, as there might be a link to Colani.

Iīve scanned dozens of original private photos of a Colani employee, I know.

He didnīt recall this car, but was quite sure there was a Colani involvement.
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Re: grob 2013.11.12 (05)
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2014, 01:01:24 PM »
 ;D
Porsche engine was quite a clue!

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Re: AME Alpha-1, Porsche 944 based Ferrari Replica
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2014, 05:16:22 PM »
Grob, are you 100% sure this car is by Alpha-1?

When I was tackling the puzzle I found Alpha-1 made kits for the 260/280 Z Datsuns , but never any mention of a  Porsche 944.

Where were the photos taken?


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Re: AME Alpha-1, Porsche 944 based Ferrari Replica
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2014, 08:55:27 AM »
Well maybe it is just the AME GTO, but it was definitly based on the 924/944 and what I wanted to hear was the company name "AME".

So Iīd stay to my decision...

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Re: AME Alpha-1, Porsche 944 based Ferrari Replica
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2014, 09:10:34 AM »
Here's what I have:
(from a '85 magazine)

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Re: AME Alpha-1, Porsche 944 based Ferrari Replica
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2014, 11:16:28 AM »
I accept its an AME from Germany based on Grobs photo, but the car photographed in Paul's magazine article is obviously very different and Datsun based.

Maybe Alpha-1 in America marketed the AME kit in North America under their name who knows?

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Re: AME Alpha-1, Porsche 944 based Ferrari Replica
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2014, 12:30:17 PM »
Iīll change the puzzle title into AME GTO...

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Re: AME GTO, a Porsche 944 based Ferrari Replica
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2014, 12:32:48 PM »
Hereīs a rear view of the unfinished project with the old Porsche 924/944 mags:

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Re: AME Alpha-1, Porsche 944 based Ferrari Replica
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2014, 10:33:03 AM »
I accept its an AME from Germany based on Grobs photo, but the car photographed in Paul's magazine article is obviously very different and Datsun based.

Maybe Alpha-1 in America marketed the AME kit in North America under their name who knows?

Let's clear some facts:

Alpha-1 in the USA existed earlier than the AME (Auto Motorrad Entwicklung CP GmbH). Joe Alphabet of Alpha-1 took the design from Eagle Manufacturing (Campbell, California, USA) in 1983. Eagle Manufacturing GT was Datsun-based while their Dino replica used Porsche 914 as a donor.

Previously I knew only about the German AME Evolution 4.2 - a Jaguar E-Type replica - made in collaboration with a British company Challenger (company name must have been "Triple C" at that time).

What I think happened here is that the German AME imported Alpha-1 from the USA, adopted Porsche base and this was their version. Perhaps no more than a single example has been made.

Hope this helps.

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Re: AME GTO, a Porsche 944 based Ferrari Replica
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2014, 08:52:01 PM »
THank you very much for your research - letīs see if someone will know exactly about the history about this car one day...

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Re: AME Alpha-1, Porsche 944 based Ferrari Replica
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2014, 03:35:27 PM »
I accept its an AME from Germany based on Grobs photo, but the car photographed in Paul's magazine article is obviously very different and Datsun based.

Maybe Alpha-1 in America marketed the AME kit in North America under their name who knows?

Let's clear some facts:


What I think happened here is that the German AME imported Alpha-1 from the USA, adopted Porsche base and this was their version. Perhaps no more than a single example has been made.




I don't see it your way, the mystery AME car is clearly modelled in clay , epoxy or plaster on to a Porsche base, the forms of the AME and Alpha 1 versions although similar (in a broad Ferrari 250 GTO way) are very different in size and contour.

If AME imported an Alpha 1 260Z kit , they would have had to alter its proportions  so much to get it to fit the Porsche that they would have been better off starting from new with a complete model job on a Porsche base (as shown in grobs photos)

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Re: AME GTO, a Porsche 944 based Ferrari Replica
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2014, 05:02:50 PM »
Agreed...