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Ubb32 Parisotto-Lancia 1952
« on: December 31, 2012, 02:39:22 PM »
What car is this and from which year ?
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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2013, 04:46:09 PM »
Too difficult for the Rookies ? Up !

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2013, 07:44:59 AM »
The racing number suggests a large field, but would not have applied to the Mille Miglia. Is this in Italy?
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2013, 08:47:37 AM »
Yes it's in Italy. Not sure if there were that many cars in the race though...

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2013, 06:30:02 PM »
The twin oval vents remind me of the Cisitalia 202GS but the lower bodywork has some Nuvolari Spider cues.
Is it Cisitalia-related?

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2013, 02:51:28 AM »
No nothing to do with Cistitalia....

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2013, 04:09:45 AM »
Mille Miglia numbers don't match with the number of cars taking part with the competition;  they show the start-hour of that car...so, if our quiz car has been pictured during a Mille Miglia, it started from Brescia at 10,13 a.m.
Has it Ermini connection?

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2013, 12:12:24 PM »
No Ermini connection. Checked my source, but the pic is not from Mille Miglia, although the driver did take part in the MM in the early fifties...

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2013, 11:56:15 AM »
Osca 1100?

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2013, 02:53:09 AM »
No Osca and smaller engine

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2013, 03:01:27 AM »
Moretti 750?

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2013, 12:25:02 PM »
Not Moretti, but 750 cc engine is right (downsized engine). A clue : it isn't a well-known make.... so not so easy

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2013, 01:06:53 PM »
Stanga 750?

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2013, 04:31:53 PM »
Good guess but not Stanga, even more obscure. Some help: the downsized engine is from Lancia

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2013, 12:59:39 AM »
Paganelli Lancia 750, 1952?

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2013, 11:46:53 AM »
Paganelli Lancia 750, 1952?

You are close, not Paganelli but it DOES begin with a P. The year 1952 is right, so I lock it for you

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2013, 01:21:24 PM »
I found two barchettas with 750 engine from Lancia Ardea; Pagani e Pasqualin...I guess on the second that seem more similar to the quiz car.
 Lancia Ardea 750 sport Pasqualin, 1952

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2013, 02:42:18 PM »
With Pasqualin you are on the right track, the base car is from him, well found. But the car is known under another name according to my source, and that name is from the person who's idea it was to race with such a car. And the name of that person starts with a P as well, so P.....-Lancia. A clue : his name is more or less similar to a famous European capital... Still locked !

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2013, 03:05:23 PM »
Parisi-Lancia 750 Pasqualin...I suppose Parisi drove it in Targa Florio 1952

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2013, 03:15:17 AM »
Not Parisi but the first 5 letters are right.... The picture is taken in the Coppa de Toscana I believe, if that helps...

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2013, 04:06:56 AM »
Could it be the Parisotto derived from "Ardor", a Lancia Ardea Sport with an about 700 cc that run in 1950-1?

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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2013, 10:29:34 AM »
On the side of the car there is maybe the Scuderia Patavium logo... and Parisotto was one of the founders of the Scuderia...
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Re: Ubb32
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2013, 11:53:37 AM »
Parisotto is right ! My source calls it a Parisotto-Lancia, base car is from Pasqualin as mentioned earlier. The engine is a Lancia Ardea, downsized to 750 cc.

Well done, a point for you. Nice little sports car isn't it ?

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Re: Ubb32 Parisotto-Lancia 1952
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2013, 01:05:01 PM »
Very nice. So short and low, with a 4V supercharged, it should have been a great fun to drive on Tuscany's hills.

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Re: Ubb32 Parisotto-Lancia 1952
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2013, 03:29:09 PM »
I wonder if the car still exists, would be nice to see live