SOLVED: WTH # 285 - Etox Diesel Sedan from Turkey

sixtee5cuda · October 25, 2013, 12:11:59 AM

What car is this?

WayneB · October 28, 2013, 12:34:53 PM

Weird one this, like a cross between a Chrysler and an Audi.

I will guess its a Skoda prototype of some sort to get the ball rolling.

sixtee5cuda · October 28, 2013, 05:06:05 PM

Not Chrysler, Audi, or Skoda.

Interesting car

WayneB · October 28, 2013, 08:09:24 PM

Eastern European?

sixtee5cuda · October 28, 2013, 08:19:54 PM

Specificity: Not from the Americas, Africa, former Soviet countries, or England.

WayneB · October 28, 2013, 09:33:10 PM

Europe ?

sixtee5cuda · October 28, 2013, 09:49:09 PM

Europe, yes

WayneB · October 29, 2013, 09:59:35 AM

Portugal?

sixtee5cuda · October 29, 2013, 01:25:22 PM

Not Portugal. Not central or western Europe

WayneB · October 29, 2013, 04:38:02 PM

Eastern Europe.

Poland?

sixtee5cuda · October 29, 2013, 08:21:03 PM

South-East of Poland

DeAutogids · October 30, 2013, 06:35:12 AM

From the sweep in the doors I would say Opel Insignia base?

sixtee5cuda · October 30, 2013, 08:32:27 AM

Not Opel based. Bespoke aluminum chassis, if I read the translation correctly.

WayneB · October 30, 2013, 10:34:46 AM

Romania?

sixtee5cuda · October 30, 2013, 10:54:55 AM

(Geography lessons soon...)

Further south

WayneB · October 30, 2013, 11:57:42 AM

Etox Diesel Sedan from Turkey.

sixtee5cuda · October 30, 2013, 05:07:21 PM

And WayneB gets the point for the correct answer.

Until this puzzle, I had no idea that Turkey was considered to be in both "SouthEast Europe" and "Western Asia".

Has anyone seen any technical details on this car? One translation I found, indicates it has an aluminum chassis.

Bill Murray · October 30, 2013, 05:42:15 PM

Hi cuda:

The extra knowledge we get from this site!!!!!!!!!!

Look at a high resolution map of the immediate area of Istanbul, Turkey. That is "Istanbul, not Constantinople".

You will see there is a definite body of water, which I have not identified yet, separating that small part of Turkey from what is considered "Western Asia". From what I can determine, that small portion of Turkey is considered part of "SouthEast Europe" and has been a bone of contention for perhaps centuries.

In modern times, it has become an issue in terms of such things as NATO membership, EEU membership and a host of other Pan European organizations that cannot seem to decide to which part of the world does Turkey really belong to.

For myself, I am pretty much neutral. Even though everyone says it will kill me, at 73 I still smoke Camel cigarettes, a "Turkish=Domestic Blend" dating from 1913

WayneB · October 30, 2013, 06:06:00 PM

I thought Turkey was in Asia as well until I looked at a recent map.

I read that the Etox has a Renault sourced Diesel engine, but couldn't find any other reference to a mainstream auto manufacturing partner.

Carnut · October 31, 2013, 06:14:43 AM

Turkey is in both continents, Europe and Asia.
Istanbul itself sits astride the Straights of Bosphorus, eash side connected by a (British-built!) suspension bridge. So Istanbul is also in both Europe and Asia!

sixtee5cuda · March 28, 2016, 09:41:32 AM

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SOLVED: WTH # 285 - Etox Diesel Sedan from Turkey