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A nice car that shouldn't puzzle you for long.

For one point, please identify this car by telling its base as well as the year it was built.

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2013, 02:51:44 AM »
No Rookie wanted this point.

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2013, 09:03:11 AM »
Wendler BMW

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2013, 09:17:15 AM »
Not Wendler, not BMW

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2013, 03:09:33 PM »
Any Jaguar connection?
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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2013, 03:49:53 PM »
None

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2013, 04:17:12 PM »
French ?

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2013, 04:19:54 PM »
No

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2013, 04:46:40 PM »
IFA?

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2013, 05:26:25 PM »
Adler by Spohn

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2013, 07:07:12 PM »
allard?

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2013, 07:21:42 PM »
German?
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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2013, 02:13:53 AM »
IFA?
Yes and no. The builder certainly either used IFA parts or was inspired by the IFA design, but the base car is not an IFA.

Adler by Spohn
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allard?
Not an Allard, because...

German?
... it is German.

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2013, 09:59:03 AM »
Hanomag 1.3 litre by Ambi Budd

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2013, 10:26:46 AM »
Not Hanomag-based, and I don't know the coachbuilder (if there was any known one involved).

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2013, 10:48:20 AM »
Hansa - Borgward

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2013, 12:23:39 PM »
Neither Hansa nor Borgward

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2013, 01:14:46 PM »
Wanderer

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2013, 01:21:37 PM »
No, but coming closer again

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2013, 02:46:02 PM »
DKW based?

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2013, 02:52:23 PM »
Yes, which one?

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2013, 04:10:14 PM »
The grille, and other parts, resemble an IFA F9 ('49-'56), but the wheels say DKW F8 ('39-'42), and the style is early to mid fifties.  I will guess that this car was built postwar on a prewar base, and say:  DKW F8 base with as shown car construction about 1953/'54.

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Re: Wendax 895
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2013, 04:38:42 PM »
Yes, that is about as close as we can get. It is based on a DKW F8 with a postwar body. According to a newspaper article it should be based on a 1938 F8 chassis what is rather improbable as only 17 F8 pre-series chassis were built in that year. The body itself is supposed to be from 1950. I have my doubts about that date, too, as the IFA F9 production just started in October of 1950. Nevertheless a very nice car.

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Re: Solved: Wendax 895 - DKW F8 racing car with IFA F9 styling elements
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2015, 01:54:53 AM »
In a nice setting:

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Re: Solved: Wendax 895 - DKW F8 racing car with IFA F9 styling elements
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2015, 05:35:57 AM »
The chassis has been changed to a postwar IFA F8 during its restoration. It was up for auction recently. The auction house says that it was originally a 1939 frame and that the body wass made in the 1950s, just as I laid out before. You better not trust the vehicle identification bolted to the car during its recreation. It says that it is a "Audi-Zwickau-DKW Typ DKW F8" from 1938. The chassis number doesn't fit in the prewar DKW number pattern, but is probably the postwar IFA number.