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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2013 => Topic started by: Wendax on April 24, 2013, 02:10:31 AM
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This is a tricky one, as the name given to it in an online source is not correct.
For one point, please respond and identify this car.
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In my Flickr photostream I called this car the "Pobel Three-wheeler" or Pöbel Three-wheeler" built in 1932. I guess that's what you meant. I wonder what the correct name is.
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Yes, that's what I meant, although I didn't have your flickr photostream in mind, but the original online source (where I guess you took the picture from). The name Pobel isn't so wrong though, as you can use three letters for the correct name.
1932 is correct as the year it appeared.
Locked for you to have a try.
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I'm thinking of "mobil", but I haven't the slightest idea of the other part of the name and see no ways to find it. You can unlock.
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Mobil is not part of the name. The car is named after its builder, and it's a short name.
Unlocked and open to all.
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Herr Pobel?
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As stated before, Pobel is not the correct name.
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Is Josef Ganz involved with this car?
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Any connection with the Framo Stromer?
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Is Josef Ganz involved with this car?
Only that it was probably featured in his magazine Motor-Kritik.
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Any connection with the Framo Stromer?
No connection to any known car manufacturer as far as I know.
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William gutbrod?
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William gutbrod?
BTW, it's Wilhelm Gutbrod, but still:
No connection to any known car manufacturer as far as I know.
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Does a pro know?
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With the Framo-style wheels and the DKW-style bodywork it should have been built in the eastern part of Germany?
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Yes, exactly
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Another challenge.
What's the name of this vehicle and from when does it date?
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1931 Neiman
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Usually you're right with your assumptions, but this is not a Neimann.
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German any Framo connection?
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German, but I can't see any Framo connection. I don't know much about this car so can't say definetly yes or no to this question.
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Pobel
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I think I should change my sources.. :-[
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You know that's something missing, though?
Locked for ropat53!
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All I can find is that it was probably made by Herr Pobel or Pöbel from Germany in 1932. I took this from a very well known site, but I believe it may not be right and maybe this is a side view of the car that's another still unsolved Autopuzzle.
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Sorry, folks! I have to admit that my (usually very accurate) source has an incorrect spelling. There this threewheeler was named Pohl. Allemano has sent me a contemporary source that rectifies the Pobel name, and further research has added some more confirmative information. So I will declare this one solved and give MrScharroo his well-deserved point.
This little car was built by Dipl.-Ing. (i.e. engineer) Herbert Pobel from Dresden, whose academic degree was earned with a work about the construction of a streamlined threewheeler. Ten years later, in 1932, he presented his P-Wagen to the public. He used many motorcycle parts to keep the costs low. The engine came from Bark. It was a four-stroke single of 588 cc developing 12 hp and accelerating the P-Wagen to a top speed of 70 km/h. The use of a smaller Bark engine, a 198 cc two-stroke unit of 6 hp was also planned. Unfortunately, the P-Wagen remained a prototype. Later on, Herbert Pobel worked for Willy Ostner's OD motorcycle works.
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I merge this with Wendax' puzzle #880, but before I give eagle-eyed ropat53 a well earned point!
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Merged.
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I merge this with Wendax' puzzle #880, but before I give eagle-eyed ropat53 a well earned point!
Thank you ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks for this bonus point!
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Some more photos and another which was the source of confusion between Pohl and Pöbel
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Thanks for clearing this up.
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Some more detail information:
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Dipl.-Ing. Sighart Herbert Pobel was engineer at Ostner in Dresden.