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Solved: Wendax 785 - Volkhart V-1
« on: January 18, 2013, 02:55:33 AM »
From the "I can't believe it hasn't been posted before" category.

For one point, please respond and identify this car.

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2013, 02:15:17 AM »
Experts will know this one.

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2013, 03:16:42 AM »
Looks very familiar, German late thirties ? Have to check the make, first guess is Opel

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2013, 03:19:38 AM »
Yes, Germany late 30s, but not Opel

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2013, 05:14:03 AM »
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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2013, 05:18:24 AM »
No

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2013, 08:49:16 AM »
I,ve seen this in an older road&track magazine,If memory serv,s me,I believe It was a Volkhart creation,I hope?

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2013, 08:56:37 AM »
Yes, it is a Volkhart. Locked for you to find the details (name, year, engine).

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2013, 09:05:20 AM »
I recall It being,called the ford-kurier wagen by Kurt C. Volkhart ?

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2013, 09:08:49 AM »
Ford is correct, Kurierwagen is one of its names. There is a more common, very short one, though.

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2013, 09:21:07 AM »
Was It called V-2,the engine a 4-cyl inline and the year 1938?

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2013, 01:07:00 PM »
The year is right, the name is close. Still locked.
BTW, do you know the coachbuilder?

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2013, 01:46:55 PM »
Was the name Impala? and coachbuilder by Baron Koennig-Fachsenfeld?

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2013, 03:25:27 PM »
Was the name Impala? and coachbuilder by Baron Koennig-Fachsenfeld?
No to both.
For the name: it is very close to "V-2".  ;D

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2013, 03:37:13 PM »
Was it the Ford courier van-v2 by Erhard Wendler?

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2013, 03:49:38 PM »
Everything except for the red mark is correct:
It is the 1938 Volkhart V-2 Kurierwagen with a Ford engine and a Wendler body.

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2013, 03:54:23 PM »
So I did answer It correctly?

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2013, 04:04:47 PM »
Except for the 2 in "V-2"!
The V2 was the Sagitta, featured here before: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=7128.0

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2013, 04:11:40 PM »
Is It the 1938 volkhart v-1?

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Re: Wendax 785
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2013, 04:33:48 PM »
Finally!

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Re: Solved: Wendax 785 - Volkhart V-1
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2013, 04:35:20 PM »
I thank you

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Re: Solved: Wendax 785 - Volkhart V-1
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2013, 07:30:57 PM »
Good jog kwgibbs!

My reference on this car says:

"Automobil-Designer Kurt C. Volkhart, früher bei Opel und dann freiberuflich aus Westfalen, hatte diese Zweisitzer mit langen abgerundeten Schwanz undicht entwickelt. Da Adolf Hitler sprach von Volkswagen, dachte Volkhart eines nationalen Sportwagens. 1938 trafen sich der Ingenieur Erwin Colsmann die Seide Hersteller, der das Geld, um ein solches Auto zu bauen gab. Volkhart baute das Chassis zu einem Mittelmotor-Auto, in dem er die Reihen-Vierzylinder-Motor des Ford Eifel eingestellt. Für die Gestaltung des Körpers, zog er die Aerodynamiker Baron Koenig-Fachsenfeld Hilfe. Wer entwarf eine abgerundete Coupé mit riesigen Schwanzflosse und voll gefüttert Hinterräder. Die große gewölbte Frontscheibe bedeckte die Dachsäulen und ging fast nahtlos in die Seitenfenster. Die ersten Arbeiten an den V-1 genannten Fahrzeuge wurden bei der Autowerkstatt, Fisch in Langenfeld durchgeführt, aber wenn sie nicht die Verarbeitung der abgerundeten Flächen konnte der Rohbau Erhard Wendler übernahm in Reutlingen, die Vollendung des Aluminium-Haut. Auch hier wurde die Schwanzflosse einstellbar gemacht, so dass sie als eine aerodynamische Bremse verwendet werden könnten. Von der Kontrolle der Fahrer könnte sogar die Luftdruck der vier Reifen - das sollte Ihnen bessere Fahreigenschaften. Das Feld graues Auto wurde nun das "V-2" wurde umbenannt und präsentiert in Berlin. General von Schell war so begeistert davon. 138 km / h schnelles Auto, dass Waffenprüfamt sofort bestellt drei weitere Testwagen, die als Kurier van der Wehrmacht Volkhart verwendet werden soll saß nun in Verbindung mit Ford, aber die Ford Leute winkte ab. So hat das Unternehmen in Arntzen leichte Brackwede die um mehr V-2 herzustellen erhalten - bis Mai 1942 zog die Artillerie-Abteilung der Bestellung."

This (translation, as I speak/read very little German) says that the V-1 and V-2 are the same car, but, from the pictures posted above, they are clearly different.  Can someone please clarify?

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Re: Solved: Wendax 785 - Volkhart V-1
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2013, 06:13:54 AM »
Your source must have been google-translated from another language.

I'll have a look at my sources tonight.

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Re: Solved: Wendax 785 - Volkhart V-1
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2013, 04:41:26 AM »
Your source must have been google-translated from another language.

I'll have a look at my sources tonight.
It's from the world famous Lexikon der vergessenen Autotypen

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Re: Solved: Wendax 785 - Volkhart V-1
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2013, 04:48:34 AM »
But it is not the original text. I guess it was translated automatically into English and then automatically retranslated into German.