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Solved: Wendax 1028 - DS (Dewaet & Stoewer)
« on: October 04, 2013, 01:35:24 AM »
Picture of an exhibition.

For one point, please respond and identify this car.
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2013, 02:10:18 AM »
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2013, 02:38:41 AM »
As close as I can tell, it looks like an Adler Diplomat 3GD of the year 1934.
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2013, 02:54:09 AM »
1934 is correct, but it is not an Adler.
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2013, 05:39:08 AM »
I cannot find a photo of such a car with sidemounted spare wheels, but then perhaps a Hanomag Sturm.
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2013, 06:17:46 AM »
Not a Hanomag
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2013, 07:46:35 AM »
Sorry, I was too lazy to go through my whole reference library.

A Stoewer Grief V8.  Very pretty, very rare.

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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2013, 07:48:53 AM »
You are right, and you are not. It is not a Stoewer Greif, although it has a lot to do with it. Locked for you to find out more.
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2013, 07:53:30 AM »
max: I removed your post as the puzzle was locked for Bill!
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2013, 08:09:58 AM »
Boy, this is embarrassing for me, Gerd, I am usually a little better than this at mid 1930's German vehicles.

I cannot get the appearance of the louvers in the grille to match, but for the rest of the vehicle it could also be a Röhr 8 13/75 PS of the same year.  If not, please unlock.

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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2013, 08:11:25 AM »
Sorry - hadn't paid attention.
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2013, 08:13:02 AM »
Quote from: Bill Murray on October 11, 2013, 08:09:58 AM
Boy, this is embarrassing for me, Gerd, I am usually a little better than this at mid 1930's German vehicles.

I cannot get the appearance of the louvers in the grille to match, but for the rest of the vehicle it could also be a Röhr 8 13/75 PS of the same year.  If not, please unlock.

Bill

You are moving off target now. Stick to the Stoewer Greif and have a second thought.

Locked for one more try.
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2013, 08:27:28 AM »
Well, not much left.

The bodywork and the grille are pretty much identical to the Stoewer R 140/150 of the same year but I could not find a photo of that model with the ventilation doors in the side of the motor hood seen in your photo as opposed to the horizontal openings found on almost all photos I have seen so far.

If I am correct, I do not know which of the two variants it is as they seem to be identical except for a higher compression ratio on the 150 car which yielded 5 more horsepower.

Again, please unlock it if I have missed it yet again.  I don't really enjoy guessing and I am not greedy for points.

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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2013, 08:29:51 AM »
Okay, unlocked and open for all Experts.
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2013, 02:07:54 PM »
As it seem pillar-less, is probably the Stoewer Greif V8,  2/3 sitziges Sportkabriolett, 1935-37. Same engine but overall a bit smaller

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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2013, 02:12:21 PM »
As I said before, it is not a Stoewer Greif, but related.  ;)
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2013, 02:24:21 PM »
Might it be a Röhr?
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2013, 02:45:30 PM »
 Assuming that Stoewer part is correct and the Grief is incorrect and that it is not one of the 'R's  then I have seem on the web a car that is similar but details different and was defined as 1934 F 2Dr. Cabriolet Glaser. I have also seen similar photos of a car described as 1935 Tourer. The grille seems about 1934. Frustrating !  Regards

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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2013, 02:59:57 PM »
Quote from: DeAutogids on October 11, 2013, 02:24:21 PM
Might it be a Röhr?
It is not a Röhr.
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2013, 03:00:57 PM »
Quote from: vintman on October 11, 2013, 02:45:30 PM
Assuming that Stoewer part is correct (...)
It is not a Stoewer, but related.
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2013, 03:20:43 PM »
Mathis maybe?
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2013, 03:38:06 PM »
No
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2013, 03:57:51 PM »
Wait... is it a DS, Dewaet & Stoewer?
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Re: Wendax 1028
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2013, 05:21:46 PM »
Yes, it is the Belgian DS, a licence-built Stoewer from 1934.

One well-earned point for you.
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Re: Solved: Wendax 1028 - DS (Dewaet & Stoewer)
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2013, 05:54:04 PM »
DeAutogids:

My sincere congratulations on your successful solving of this puzzle.
Certainly a well earned point.

Wendax... do you have any idea how many of these cars were built, especially this cabriolet???
Could not be more than a handfull.
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