Solved: Wendax 1028 - DS (Dewaet & Stoewer)

[Wendax]

Picture of an exhibition.

For one point, please respond and identify this car.

[Wendax]

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[Bill Murray]

As close as I can tell, it looks like an Adler Diplomat 3GD of the year 1934.
Bill

[Wendax]

1934 is correct, but it is not an Adler.

[Bill Murray]

I cannot find a photo of such a car with sidemounted spare wheels, but then perhaps a Hanomag Sturm.

[Wendax]

Not a Hanomag

[Bill Murray]

Sorry, I was too lazy to go through my whole reference library.

A Stoewer Grief V8.  Very pretty, very rare.

Bill

[Wendax]

You are right, and you are not. It is not a Stoewer Greif, although it has a lot to do with it. Locked for you to find out more.

[Allemano]

max: I removed your post as the puzzle was locked for Bill!

[Bill Murray]

Boy, this is embarrassing for me, Gerd, I am usually a little better than this at mid 1930's German vehicles.

I cannot get the appearance of the louvers in the grille to match, but for the rest of the vehicle it could also be a Röhr 8 13/75 PS of the same year.  If not, please unlock.

Bill

[max]

Sorry - hadn't paid attention.

[Wendax]

Boy, this is embarrassing for me, Gerd, I am usually a little better than this at mid 1930's German vehicles.

I cannot get the appearance of the louvers in the grille to match, but for the rest of the vehicle it could also be a Röhr 8 13/75 PS of the same year.  If not, please unlock.

Bill

You are moving off target now. Stick to the Stoewer Greif and have a second thought.

Locked for one more try.

[Bill Murray]

Well, not much left.

The bodywork and the grille are pretty much identical to the Stoewer R 140/150 of the same year but I could not find a photo of that model with the ventilation doors in the side of the motor hood seen in your photo as opposed to the horizontal openings found on almost all photos I have seen so far.

If I am correct, I do not know which of the two variants it is as they seem to be identical except for a higher compression ratio on the 150 car which yielded 5 more horsepower.

Again, please unlock it if I have missed it yet again.  I don't really enjoy guessing and I am not greedy for points.

Bill

[Wendax]

Okay, unlocked and open for all Experts.

[vintman]

As it seem pillar-less, is probably the Stoewer Greif V8,  2/3 sitziges Sportkabriolett, 1935-37. Same engine but overall a bit smaller

Regards

Vintman

[Wendax]

As I said before, it is not a Stoewer Greif, but related. 

[DeAutogids]

Might it be a Röhr?

[vintman]

 Assuming that Stoewer part is correct and the Grief is incorrect and that it is not one of the 'R's  then I have seem on the web a car that is similar but details different and was defined as 1934 F 2Dr. Cabriolet Glaser. I have also seen similar photos of a car described as 1935 Tourer. The grille seems about 1934. Frustrating !  Regards

Vintman

[Wendax]

Might it be a Röhr?

It is not a Röhr.

[Wendax]

Assuming that Stoewer part is correct (...)

It is not a Stoewer, but related.

[DeAutogids]

Mathis maybe?

[Wendax]

No

[DeAutogids]

Wait... is it a DS, Dewaet & Stoewer?

[Wendax]

Yes, it is the Belgian DS, a licence-built Stoewer from 1934.

One well-earned point for you.

[Bill Murray]

DeAutogids:

My sincere congratulations on your successful solving of this puzzle.
Certainly a well earned point.

Wendax... do you have any idea how many of these cars were built, especially this cabriolet???
Could not be more than a handfull.