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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2013 => Topic started by: Wendax on March 20, 2013, 03:22:10 PM
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After we had the straightforward Peugeot 205 rearlight puzzle, here's a brainteasing group puzzle. Below you will find 34 pictures. Seventeen of them show people or places one might connect the feeling of pleasure with. The other bunch of 17 show "domes", well, at least buildings. Your task is to find the connections which might be of varying character. Some are easy, some are not. One point for each correct pair with the right connecting reason.
Have fun!
The first pleasures:
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More pleasures:
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The domes:
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More domes:
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The solutions:
A: Renault at World Exhibition 1958 in Brussels - 10: Soviet pavillion there (4popoid)
B: Carlo Mollino - 13: Turin Teatro Regio (targhediferro)
C: Opel 4 PS - 3: Opel factory at Rüsselsheim (4popoid)
D: Prototype design at Hebmüller - 15: Construction of the new Hebmüller factory building (4popoid)
E: EBS Kinder-Rennwagen - 8: Brütsch Kugelhaus (4popoid)
F: Stirling Moss at 16: Autohaus Liewers in Vienna (Tom_I)
G: Carl Benz Monument proposal - 6: Stadt-Apotheke Wiesloch (targhediferro)
H: Elvis Presley at the - 14: Sheraton Cadillac Hotel, Detroit (4popoid)
I: Tour Perret in Amiens - 5: Garage Ponthieu in Paris by Auguste Perret (4popoid)
J: Canali shop in the building where - 9: Garage Marbeuf was (Craig Gillingham)
K: Kar-a-sutra - 2: Deutsche Bank bridge, both by Mario Bellini (4popoid)
L: McLaren grid girl - 12: Paragon (4popoid)
M: Amadeo Modigliani's "Nu couché" - 17: Lingotto factory, Torino (targhediferro)
N: The bar "The Car - Das Auto" in Salzburg - 4: the building it is in (4popoid)
O: Z boat by Zaha Hadid - 7: Vitra fire station by Zaha Hadid (4popoid)
P: Ralph Lauren fashion show model - 6: Ralph Lauren's garage (4popoid)
Q: Carnival in Sao Paulo - 11: The 50,000th Chevrolet built in Sao Paulo (Craig Gillingham)
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A & 10
A is a view of Brussels, Belgium in 1958, showing the World's Fair Symbol building, The Atomium, in the background.
10 is an internal view of the USSR pavilion at the 1958 Brussels Worlds Fair.
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P & 6
P is a model showing fashion designs by Ralph Lauren.
6 is an interior view of of Ralph Lauren's garage showing his automobile collection.
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A & 10
A is a view of Brussels, Belgium in 1958, showing the World's Fair Symbol building, The Atomium, in the background.
10 is an internal view of the USSR pavilion at the 1958 Brussels Worlds Fair.
Yes, you almost earned your point. Tell me what that nice lady in picture A is promoting. The building behind her might help. A-10 locked for you.
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P & 6
P is a model showing fashion designs by Ralph Lauren.
6 is an interior view of of Ralph Lauren's garage showing his automobile collection.
Yes, that was an easy one for a fashion expert. ;D
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I'm not sure, but I think she is promoting the Renault exhibit at the '58 Worlds Fair.
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I'm not sure, but I think she is promoting the Renault exhibit at the '58 Worlds Fair.
Yes, well guessed. She's in front of the French pavillion.
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L & 12
L is a McLaren Grid Girl at the 2010 Canadian Grand Prix.
12 is the McLaren Tech. Center in Woking, England.
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L & 12
L is a McLaren Grid Girl at the 2010 Canadian Grand Prix.
12 is the McLaren Tech. Center in Woking, England.
Ah, I can see what attracts you most. ;)
Yes, the third lady in this puzzle leads to what was originally known as the Paragon Technology Centre.
Well done!
There still is a painting of a nice lady, but then you have to turn your mind to other pleasures. :D
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B & 13;
B is the designer Carlo Mollino in his siluro ( I add a picture of this car naked)
13 is Turin Teatro Regio, one of Mollino masterpieces.
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B & 13;
B is the designer Carlo Mollino his siluro ( I add a picture of this car naked)
13 is Turin Teatro Regio, one of Mollino masterpieces.
Yes, nothing to add.
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I'm not sure at all, but I guess G & 1:
G looks like a monument and the years I can read are birth and death of Karl Benz, so I suppose it is a monument dedicated at him.
I remember that during the first journey that Berta, Benz's wife, did with a model Velo, she was forced to buy some petrol in a chemist's (in German Apoteke) to be able to reach her mother's home, perhaps in Karlsruhe.
Now, in Pleasuredome n.1 is possible to read Apoteke, so I've thought it could be a drawing actually of that Apoteke. Perhaps you'll think I'm really mad
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N & 4
N is a restaurant and bar, in Salzburg Austria, built in the shape of a car.
4 is an interior view of the bar area of that building.
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I'm not sure at all, but I guess G & 1:
G looks like a monument and the years I can read are birth and death of Karl Benz, so I suppose it is a monument dedicated at him.
I remember that during the first journey that Berta, Benz's wife, did with a model Velo, she was forced to buy some petrol in a chemist's (in German Apoteke) to be able to reach her mother's home, perhaps in Karlsruhe.
Now, in Pleasuredome n.1 is possible to read Apoteke, so I've thought it could be a drawing actually of that Apoteke. Perhaps you'll think I'm really mad
You're not mad, you just make good use of the clues I left there. You are right so far. To obtain the point, just tell me where the Apotheke was where Berta Benz bought some Ligroin. G-1 locked for you.
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N & 4
N is a restaurant and bar, in Salzburg Austria, built in the shape of a car.
4 is an interior view of the bar area of that building.
Yes, tell me the name of the restaurant bar and the point is yours. N-4 locked for you.
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According to a source I found in the net, Bertha stopped at Wiesloch.
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J is a mens Canali clothing store in Paris. I think this links to 9, Garage Marbeuf, a Citroen dealership that was at 32-34 rue Marbeuf Champ Elysees in the late 20's. The building still exists, but now contains office spaces, bars etc, including a Canali store.
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According to a source I found in the net, Bertha stopped at Wiesloch.
Yes, it is.
The unmodified Carl Benz monument proposal:
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J is a mens Canali clothing store in Paris. I think this links to 9, Garage Marbeuf, a Citroen dealership that was at 32-34 rue Marbeuf Champ Elysees in the late 20's. The building still exists, but now contains office spaces, bars etc, including a Canali store.
Well done, we're starting to crack the harder nuts now. :D
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N & 4
N is a restaurant and bar, in Salzburg Austria, built in the shape of a car.
4 is an interior view of the bar area of that building.
Yes, tell me the name of the restaurant bar and the point is yours. N-4 locked for you.
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I believe the restaurant/bar is named "the car . Das Auto".
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N & 4
N is a restaurant and bar, in Salzburg Austria, built in the shape of a car.
4 is an interior view of the bar area of that building.
Yes, tell me the name of the restaurant bar and the point is yours. N-4 locked for you.
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I believe the restaurant/bar is named "the car . Das Auto".
Yes, simple as that.
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This a bit of guess work, O is the Z-Boat designed by British architect Zaha Hadid, who also designed building 12?
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I'm quite sure that n.17 is Lingotto factory, Turin, the spiralled ramp to reach the roof circuit. Maybe Q is a picture of the 2006 Winter Olympic Parade of Turin.
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Q is carnival in Sao Paulo, this links to 11, a photo showing the 50,000th GM built in Sao Paulo.
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This a bit of guess work, O is the Z-Boat designed by British architect Zaha Hadid, who also designed building 12?
You are right about the boat and its designer, but wrong about the building. #12 was already identified as McLaren's Paragon.
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I'm quite sure that n.17 is Lingotto factory, Turin, the spiralled ramp to reach the roof circuit. Maybe Q is a picture of the 2006 Winter Olympic Parade of Turin.
You are right about Lingotto, but wrong about pleasure Q....
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Q is carnival in Sao Paulo, this links to 11, a photo showing the 50,000th GM built in Sao Paulo.
... because this is correct. Well done!
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Is Dome 5 a garage in a hotel?
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Is Dome 5 a garage in a hotel?
No
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O & 7
O is the Z-Boat designed Zaha Hadid
7 is the Vitra Fire Station in Weil am Rhein, Germany, by architect Zaha Hadid
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O & 7
O is the Z-Boat designed Zaha Hadid
7 is the Vitra Fire Station in Weil am Rhein, Germany, by architect Zaha Hadid
Yes, the first building by Zaha Hadid that was realized.
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K & 2
K is the Kar-a-Sutra : House on Wheels by Italian Designer Mario Bellini.
2 is the Deutche Bank Bridge in London by Mario Bellini.
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K & 2
K is the Kar-a-Sutra : House on Wheels by Italian Designer Mario Bellini.
2 is the Deutche Bank Bridge in London by Mario Bellini.
Besides from the typo (it's Deutsche Bank) that's correct.
The Kar-a-sutra made its appearance here before: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=11490.0
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I & 5
I is the Tour Perret a residential skyscraper in Amiens, France, by Auguste Perret.
5 is the Rue Ponthieu Garage in Paris, France, by Auguste Perret.
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I & 5
I is the Tour Perret a residential skyscraper in Amiens, France, by Auguste Perret.
5 is the Rue Ponthieu Garage in Paris, France, by Auguste Perret.
Amazing performance! Right again!
The Rue Ponthieu Garage was the world's first building made of reinforced concrete. Unfortunately it was demolished in 1970.
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One last shot (and this one is pure guesswork) and I have to leave the Pleasure Dome.
H & 8
H is obviously a photograph of Elvis Presley.
8 is the Kugelhaus designed by Egon Brütsch, in 1959.
I'll guess that the connection is 50's culture.
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One last shot (and this one is pure guesswork) and I have to leave the Pleasure Dome.
H & 8
H is obviously a photograph of Elvis Presley.
8 is the Kugelhaus designed by Egon Brütsch, in 1959.
I'll guess that the connection is 50's culture.
H is Elvis, 8 is Brütsch's Kugelhaus, all right. But they don't pair and the connection to their counterparts is more substantial than just the same decade. Just keep on digging! ;D
All other experts are invited, too. 8)
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H & 14
H is Elvis Presley in his room at the Sheraton Cadillac Hotel in Detroit in 1956.
14 is a postcard of the Sheraton Cadillac Hotel in Detroit.
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E & 8
E is a photograph of Egon Brütsch (right center, behind car hood).
8 is the Kugelhaus designed by Egon Brütsch, in 1959.
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H & 14
H is Elvis Presley in his room at the Sheraton Cadillac Hotel in Detroit in 1956.
14 is a postcard of the Sheraton Cadillac Hotel in Detroit.
Yes, that's the ticket.
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E & 8
E is a photograph of Egon Brütsch (right center, behind car hood).
8 is the Kugelhaus designed by Egon Brütsch, in 1959.
Everything correct what you said, but there is a little bit more about Pleasuredome E.
E-8 locked for you.
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Not sure exactly what you are looking for, and I haven't been able to locate anything detailed specifically about picture E (like where or when), but, since this is AutoPuzzles, I'm guessing that you are looking for how Egon Brütsch relates to cars.
Before he began designing houses in the late '50's, Egon Brütsch was a race car driver who contributed to the design of his own race cars in the late '40's. In the early and mid '50's he designed a series of several different models of micro cars, all using molded composite bodies consisting an upper and lower portion, the joint of which showed as a horizontal line around the vehicle. The car in the picture doesn't look like any of his several commercial designs that I have seen, but it does have the characteristic horizontal line, so I'm guessing that the car in the picture might be some sort of "proof of concept", or maybe an additional design specifically for children (perhaps his own).
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The car in the picture doesn't look like any of his several commercial designs that I have seen, but it does have the characteristic horizontal line, so I'm guessing that the car in the picture might be some sort of "proof of concept", or maybe an additional design specifically for children (perhaps his own).
Yes, that is correct. Please provide the name of this children's car. Still locked for you.
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I guess M and 17; M is a masterpiece of Amedeo Modigliani, and I think it may belong to Gianni Agnelli's collection, that is exposed in a wonderful structure realized on the roof of Lingotto, Fiat factory from the '30. And 17 is the spiral ramp of Lingotto.
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I guess M and 17; M is a masterpiece of Amedeo Modigliani, and I think it may belong to Gianni Agnelli's collection, that is exposed in a wonderful structure realized on the roof of Lingotto, Fiat factory from the '30. And 17 is the spiral ramp of Lingotto.
Yes, it does. Well found!
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The car in the picture doesn't look like any of his several commercial designs that I have seen, but it does have the characteristic horizontal line, so I'm guessing that the car in the picture might be some sort of "proof of concept", or maybe an additional design specifically for children (perhaps his own).
Yes, that is correct. Please provide the name of this children's car. Still locked for you.
It looks like I'm going to have to "toss in the towel" on this one. I have searched everywhere that I can think of, but have been unable to locate any children's car designed by Egon Brütsch, let alone find its name. I have compiled a list of names for Brütsch designs (Avoletta, Belcar, Mopetta, Tourette, Pfeil, Rollera, Zwerg, Zwerg Einsitzer, Bussard, Spatz, V-2, V2N, 400, Jet), but all of these appear to be for adults, although they are microcars.
Thanks for the lock, but I guess we're going to have to open it up to an Expert who has better references than I. I hate to give up when I am this close, but I have had a good run in the Pleasuredome, so I don't need to be greedy.
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One last hint from me, because you are so close: this children's car has a strong relation to a car Brütsch built before he started his microcar business. Still locked.
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Thanks for the extension, but I'm not sure I can add much. Egon Brütsch had two full size racing cars built prior to his venture into microcars. I believe that these were called EBS (for Egon Brütsch, Stuttgart) and EBSII. In the press these were sometimes called the "Westenrieder-Maserati" and the "EBS II-Bugatti", but I doubt that either Maserati or Bugatti could be used in the name for the children's car. However I suppose that it is possible that Brütsch could have called the children's car either EBS, or perhaps EBSIII. I'm afraid that this is about the best that I can do on the subject.
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EBS is what I was after, as this was called EBS Kinder-Rennwagen (= children's racing car).
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up again
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Time to return to the Pleasuredome and see if we (I will need lots of help) can finish this one off.
I am going to try D & 15.
D is clearly inside a body shop, where a restoration (not new work) seems to be taking place. The person in the foreground seems very over dressed for a body shop, so I suppose that he is the owner and/or designer, but if I need to know who he is, I don't have a clue. The car under restoration appears to be from the late 40's, or early 50's, and possibly Italian, so perhaps the unidentified person is the original designer.
15 is an unknown building under construction. From the picture I would guess the time frame is the 1930's, but it could be early post war. If one imagines the finished structure, it seems to me that the restoration work in D is occurring inside this building, given the amount of the building visible in the background.
I going way out on a limb and guess that the person in the picture is Sergio Pininfarina, given that the Pininfarina establishment was founded in 1930, and Battista's, ("Pinin") son Sergio was in charge after Pinin's death in 1966, and was reputed to be a very "hands on" president. Sergio was born in 1926, so, given the clothing style, the person in picture D appears to be about the right age.
I'm probably way off with this scenario, but perhaps it will trigger some ideas with other AutoPuzzlers who will proceed to complete the puzzle of the Pleasuredome.
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Time to return to the Pleasuredome and see if we (I will need lots of help) can finish this one off.
This is a very good idea.
I am going to try D & 15.
That is the right combination. Now we only need the fitting connection.
D is clearly inside a body shop, where a restoration (not new work) seems to be taking place. The person in the foreground seems very over dressed for a body shop, so I suppose that he is the owner and/or designer, but if I need to know who he is, I don't have a clue. The car under restoration appears to be from the late 40's, or early 50's, and possibly Italian, so perhaps the unidentified person is the original designer.
It is not a restoration and the car is not Italian, but the time is right.
15 is an unknown building under construction. From the picture I would guess the time frame is the 1930's, but it could be early post war. If one imagines the finished structure, it seems to me that the restoration work in D is occurring inside this building, given the amount of the building visible in the background.
Yes, it is the postwar construction of a building belonging to the company in question.
I going way out on a limb and guess that the person in the picture is Sergio Pininfarina, given that the Pininfarina establishment was founded in 1930, and Battista's, ("Pinin") son Sergio was in charge after Pinin's death in 1966, and was reputed to be a very "hands on" president. Sergio was born in 1926, so, given the clothing style, the person in picture D appears to be about the right age.
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I'm probably way off with this scenario, but perhaps it will trigger some ideas with other AutoPuzzlers who will proceed to complete the puzzle of the Pleasuredome.
D-15 locked for you to come up with the connecting company.
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Thanks for the lock. I hope I can do something with it, but in order to do so I have to narrow the scope. Is the location of the pictures in Germany?
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Yes
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Might the connecting company be: Carosserie Spohn of Ravensburg, Germany?
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I can see why you think of Spohn, but it's not.
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Well, Gerd, I'm pretty much at a loss as to the connecting company. I'll give it one more shot, and if I'm wrong, as I think I will be, unlock it, and let the Professionals finish it off (which I hope they will). Is the connecting company: Karosserie Dorr & Schreck of Frankfurt a.M.?
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Not Dörr & Schreck. I think you guessed Spohn, because you noticed some similarities between the pictured car and a certain marque. The company in question was doing bodywork for that marque, too.
Open for all again.
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Is the company in question Baur of Stuttgart?
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No
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Is the company in question Automobilwerke Ernst Loof GmbH?
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No, it is a coachbuilder.
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Yes, I thought you wanted a coachbuilder, but I wasn't having much luck, so I thought I would try the car builder. I haven't been able to locate a known (to me) coachbuilder, but I did locate a couple of unknown names who worked on a racing roadster of the same marque, so perhaps one of them is the mystery coachbuilder. Those names are: Kurt Frick of Messkirch, and Karl Kling of (?). One or or both may have been internal employees of the car builder, and thus do not fit the required parameters, but it is all I can find at the moment.
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It was an established coachbuilder, which is widely known for bodywork on a car by a different manufacturer.
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Perhaps I have been thinking too small, and/or too obscure. Is the company in question Karosserie Hebmüller?
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Spot on! Picture D probably shows a design for Veritas, but I'm not sure about that. Picture 15 depicts the construction of the new factory building at Wülfrath after the old factory was destroyed by a fire (that finally ruined Hebmüller).
Two more combinations to go. One of them is not really that hard, while the other one ...
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It's the home stretch! I have some ideas, but I'm not sure how they are related. I'll start with: C&3.
C shows a boy standing on the hood of an unknown brand of car (I would have been severely punished if I had stood on a car hood!). I have no idea of the identity of the child, or if that is even important, but I suspect that the brand of car is important, as the badge has been obscured, although the style of the auto is that of a European marque.
3 shows an industrial building, which is probably an auto assembly plant, given the covered autos sitting on the railroad flatcars adjacent to the building. The identity of the autos is pretty well obscured by their covering, although, by their general shape, I would estimate late '30s (obviously much newer than the one shown in C).
Given the above, I'll guess that C shows an unknown young boy standing on the hood of an auto manufactured at the plant shown in 3.
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You are absolutely right with your assumptions. All you need for the solution is the car brand, the car and the location of the plant. If you find the first one, the others will be quite easy.
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I believe the car in C is a 1925/26 Opel 4/14 PS, and the plant in 3 is the administration and factory buildings of Opel in Rüsselsheim, Germany.
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Perfect answer.
Who will find out what the last pair is about?
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One more to go, with the pair, F & 16, already determined!
F is the picture of a adult male sitting in an auto (I think it is a Porsche 356A convertible of 1955-1959) surrounded by apparently admiring people, most of whom appear to be wearing Volkswagen shop coats. I don't know who the person in the auto is for sure, or even if this is important to the puzzle, but I think that it might be Dr. Carl Hahn. At the time of production of the Porsche 356A, Hahn was assistant to VW Chairman Heinrich Nordhoff, who made him head of VW export sales, and later president of Volkswagen of America.
16 is something of a guess, but it appears to be the lobby of an office building, in which is displayed a 1950-1967 Volkswagen Type 2 (T1) van. The displayed van appears to be a Westfalia-Werke camper conversion, so I am guessing that this photo might might have been taken in the lobby of Westfalia-Werke in Rheda-Wiedenbrück, Germany. This may have no connection to the puzzle, but the art displayed on the lobby wall appears to be of St. Christopher, the patron saint of travelers.
In any case I am guessing that the connection between photos F & 16 is Volkswagen.
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Some pieces of this last puzzle are falling in the right place. The guy in the Porsche 356 is a famous person visiting a Volkswagen shop. I would say that he is better known than Carl Hahn. The St Christopher artwork might give you a hint about the area where this visit took place.
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I still don't know who the person in the car is, but I have learned that St. Christopher is the patron saint of Braunschweig, where Volkswagen has a satellite plant (its first). So perhaps 16 is a location (lobby?) at the Braunschweig Volkswagen facility, where our unknown person, in the car, once paid a visit.
Although the person is cited as well known, I don't know if he is well known outside of Germany, or, even if he is, in what field. He might be an actor, businessman, engineer/designer, politician, or sports personality. Since this is AutoPuzzles, he might be a famous racing car driver (perhaps German?).
Despite the anonymity of the person, the connecting feature of the two pictures, F & 16, would be the Braunschweig Volkswagen facility.
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Well, I want this to be solved. You came closer again in some respects. The man in question is well known not only in Germany. To help you along I attach another picture. My hint with St Christopher was misleading. I just wanted to emphasize that the place is rather in a Catholic area than in a Protestant one. To obtain the final point, name that man and the city where this took place, as the Volkswagen dealer where the pictures were taken would be very hard to find.
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I'm still not having any luck with the place, but with the new picture, I'm now even more convinced that the man in the car is Stirling Moss.
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I think Tom_I is correct, that the man in the picture is Sir Stirling Moss. With that in mind, I think, the location of the picture may be in Austria, not Germany. I think this picture may have taken in Zeltweg, Austria, the location of Zeltweg Air Base, which was home to several Formula One events from 1964 to 1969. Therefore, if the picture is from a Volkeswagen dealership, it must be in, or near, Zeltweg, Austria.
A big "Thank You" to Tom_I.
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Stirling Moss is correct, Austria is correct, too. The pictures were taken, because Moss was racing at Zeltweg and made a promotional visit to a VW dealer. Locked for Tom_I and 4popoid to name the city. Whoever is first, gets the last point.
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I have been trying to identify where Photo 16 is, but I have failed so far.
I'll try Vienna for the city, but it's just a guess.
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Yes, Vienna it is. The photos were taken at Autohaus Liewers.
That brings this puzzle to an end. The results are:
4popoid: 11 points
targhediferro: 3 points
Craig Gillingham: 2 points
Tom_I: 1 point
Thank you, gentlemen. Time for me to think about another group puzzle.
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Good job Tom_I, you deserve the point, as I wouldn't have even been close without your post of Sir Stirling Moss. I had the date (September 11, 1960), and the name of the dealership, but, by the time I had found that the dealership was located in Vienna, you had already posted.
Good puzzle Gerd. I'm glad that, as a team, we were able to complete it.