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Solved - MJW #1173 - Petty-JAP 1000
« on: March 30, 2013, 03:12:14 AM »
What was the name of this small racing car and what engine and size was fitted?
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Re: MJW #1173
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2013, 02:09:49 PM »
Moving up (literally!)

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Re: MJW #1173
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2013, 07:38:34 AM »
Quite extraordinary. I'm baffled. Like many puzzlers I went straight to "a certain site" without success, before the glaringly obvious came to my attention.

This really is a "bitsa" - I reckon an old 50s F3 chassis that has been modernised in the 60s to keep up with later technology. Rear suspension is very confusing - the engine could well be a 1000cc or 1100cc JAP.

I take it this is British ?
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

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Re: MJW #1173
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2013, 09:05:58 AM »
a kieft

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Re: MJW #1173
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2013, 09:54:12 AM »
It's not a Kieft and this car doesn't appear on "that site" either......
The engine is a JAP but not as large as 1000.

The confusing thing is that a car of the same name is featured on the "500 site" but with a Norton engine.
This one is British and seems to have been built as a hillclimb car.

The name is xxxxx JAP x00 Special and that's all the information I have at the moment (I'll try to find out more in the meantime)

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Re: MJW #1173
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2013, 10:01:45 AM »
Petty-JAP, 900cc ?

The Petty on "that site" has twin-wishbone rear supension like the puzzle car, which must have been pretty adavnced for F3 in the 50s. In fact, they look fairly similar, and possibly a hillclimb specialist has doctored the original car after its usefulness on the circuits was over.

(I realised I was wasting my time on "that site" when I eventually spotted two exhaust pipes, which precluded the obvious engine size)
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

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Re: MJW #1173
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2013, 10:09:33 AM »
Petty-JAP, 900cc ?

The Petty on "that site" has twin-wishbone rear supension like the puzzle car, which must have been pretty adavnced for F3 in the 50s. In fact, they look fairly similar, and possibly a hillclimb specialist has doctored the original car after its usefulness on the circuits was over.

(I realised I was wasting my time on "that site" when I eventually spotted two exhaust pipes, which precluded the obvious engine size)
Yes, it's the Petty-JAP but the engine size is much smaller than 900cc.
LOCKED for you to correct this.

Here's the original photo -

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Re: MJW #1173
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2013, 10:11:34 AM »
I just realised I've given you the answer!  :D

No worries - the point is yours.....

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Re: MJW #1173
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2013, 10:17:45 AM »
I just realised I've given you the answer!  :D

No worries - the point is yours.....

Easiest point of the day! I was staying away from the obvious 500cc because of the twin exhausts. Still don't understand that.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

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Re: Solved - MJW #1173 - Petty-JAP 500
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2013, 12:49:01 PM »
The image is from Prescott in the early 1960s, though I don't have an exact date. The car has been modified by the White brothers (one of whom is driving) to fit a JAP 1,000 Twin - hence the distinctive heads and twin pipes.

The car survives, now reverted to Norton 500 spec.

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Re: Solved - MJW #1173 - Petty-JAP 500
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2013, 01:28:45 PM »
Yes here's Dave Lecoq in it:
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Re: Solved - MJW #1173 - Petty-JAP 500
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2013, 12:05:38 PM »
I've modified the title to the correct engine capacity at the time.
Thanks folks for the extra information and photo.