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Title: Solved TGF-59: Mercedes-Benz 170 H, 1936, Hermann Lang (perhaps Baur)
Post by: targhediferro on March 01, 2013, 12:47:58 PM

Make, model, year and coachbuilder (I need a prove because my source is not sure about this last question)of this pretty car to add a point at your own treasure.

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Post by: targhediferro on March 07, 2013, 10:22:09 AM

Experts required.

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Post by: DeAutogids on March 08, 2013, 04:59:51 AM

It has a bit of Steyr about it. Maybe a coachbuild 1500?

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Post by: targhediferro on March 08, 2013, 05:00:58 AM

not a Steyr, sorry.

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Post by: mekubb on March 08, 2013, 05:02:42 AM

German ?

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Post by: DeAutogids on March 08, 2013, 05:05:57 AM

Mercedes based?

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Post by: targhediferro on March 08, 2013, 05:09:43 AM

Indeed so...I add that in my opinion it's a proper Mercedes-Benz, partially modified.  Tell me the model and I'll lock it for you to add the coachbuilder.

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Post by: DeAutogids on March 08, 2013, 05:38:01 AM

With that nose I think probably a Mercedes with the engine at the rear?

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Post by: targhediferro on March 08, 2013, 05:59:50 AM

 ;)

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Post by: targhediferro on March 08, 2013, 06:27:01 AM

I think it's useful a little clue;  as I told I'm not sure about the coachbuilder, but I can add that this car belonged to a well known man who was connected with Mercedes-Benz.

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Post by: Bill Murray on March 08, 2013, 06:47:25 AM

It is a Mercedes 170 H I am quite sure but I have had no luck with the coachbuilder even after a couple of hours of searching.  I found your photo on the internet by Googling "Mercedes 170 Heck" but there was just the same photo with no details.

To my eyes, the number plate looks to be Austrian but that may be incorrect.

Hopefully someone else will get the answer pretty quick.  I am lost for the moment.

Bill

Title: Re: TGF-59
Post by: targhediferro on March 08, 2013, 07:01:33 AM

It's a 170H modified for its owner, perhaps it is easier to find him than who modified it.

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Post by: mekubb on March 08, 2013, 10:07:31 AM

Body by Ludewig / Essen ?

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Post by: targhediferro on March 08, 2013, 11:13:30 AM

Not the one I have...but if have a prove, as I told before it would be better to identify the owner of this car.

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Post by: D-type on March 10, 2013, 02:40:11 PM

A long shot: was it owned by Ferdinand Porsche?

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Post by: targhediferro on March 10, 2013, 03:43:26 PM

Not Porsche, but it's probably they met or almost knew one each other.

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Post by: Hiawatha on March 10, 2013, 04:30:17 PM

A shot in the dark... Alfred Neubauer?

Title: Re: TGF-59
Post by: targhediferro on March 10, 2013, 04:45:27 PM

not Neubauer....the owner was faster! ;)

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Post by: Hiawatha on March 11, 2013, 03:45:02 AM

Lang?

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Post by: mekubb on March 11, 2013, 04:08:01 AM

Rosenmeyer ?

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Post by: targhediferro on March 11, 2013, 05:13:17 AM

Hiawatha got the name....The car belonged to Hermann Lang and He's the man who asked to modify his own car in order to get it more streamlined.  So I think fine to award Hiawatha with a point;  I've been told that He committed the work to Baur (Lang too was from Stuttgart), but I've no prove about it.
The picture comes from a Lang family album, sold some years ago in a Automobilia auction.

Title: Re: Solved TGF-59: Mercedes-Benz 170 H, 1936, Hermann Lang (perhaps Baur)
Post by: nicanary on March 11, 2013, 06:28:30 AM

This makes some sense. Lang was head mechanic until 1936 before he was given a chance at driving, and he would therefore not have been considered high enough in rank to qualify for one of the M-B luxury cars. (Consider the cars that drivers like Caracciola and Rosemeyer had for their personal use. ) Lang was often regarded by the more aristocratic team members (especially von Brauchitsch) as someone beneath them in the social order.