Author Topic: Solved TGF-43: Nordec 1949  (Read 632 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Solved TGF-43: Nordec 1949
« on: February 19, 2013, 11:38:12 AM »
Can you identify this car...if you do, You'll receive a very well earned point.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2013, 03:07:52 PM by targhediferro »

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2013, 08:40:53 AM »
Experts?

Offline mymokke

  • Expert
  • *
  • Posts: 685
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 118
  • Every day starts good! behind the wheel of a MOPAR
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2013, 07:46:51 PM »
Obviously super charged ........ european?

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2013, 12:44:06 AM »
Yes...a little clue; the car is quite obscure, but the engine that it uses and that in this car is supercharged, comes from a car built in thousands of pieces.

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2013, 05:58:40 AM »
Another picture, because the previous one is perhaps too obscure.

Offline sixtee5cuda

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 5917
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 425
  • Mopar Man
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2013, 08:27:45 AM »
Is this a pre-war Allard?

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2013, 09:47:10 AM »
Not Allard...and not pre-war.

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2013, 11:08:22 AM »
Up....and from tomorrow Prof.

Offline sixtee5cuda

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 5917
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 425
  • Mopar Man
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2013, 11:32:42 AM »
British car?

Online nicanary

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 18598
  • Country: gb
  • Puzzle Points 648
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2013, 11:57:48 AM »
The engine is small (Not American) - is it a Ford 1172cc ?
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2013, 12:07:37 PM »
British car?
Yes.
The engine is small (Not American) - is it a Ford 1172cc ?
Yes!!

Offline sixtee5cuda

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 5917
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 425
  • Mopar Man
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2013, 02:31:06 PM »
Dellow?

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2013, 07:33:04 AM »
Sorry for the late reply, I haven't seen your guess....Not a Dellow

Online nicanary

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 18598
  • Country: gb
  • Puzzle Points 648
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2013, 09:34:21 AM »
This is intriguing. The supercharger is, I think, a Wade - Dellow were agents for Wade but you say it is not one of them. It appears very well made, with wings built into the bodywork (not cycle-type wings) and a fully-stocked dash and interior furnishings. So it's unlikely to have been made for trials work alone.

It's not a Paramount, because there are cut-away doors and a single pane screen. Is it a Buckler?
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2013, 09:43:00 AM »
Not a Buckler.

Online nicanary

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 18598
  • Country: gb
  • Puzzle Points 648
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2013, 11:24:47 AM »
Is this car the small Leidart?  They built one for press photos, but I believe no more were made.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2013, 12:34:58 PM »
Not Leidart....but good guess, quiz car too has been built in almost one exemplaire.

Offline WayneB

  • Expert
  • *
  • Posts: 905
  • Country: ca
  • Puzzle Points 205
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2013, 01:26:12 PM »
This is intriguing. The supercharger is, I think, a Wade - Dellow were agents for Wade but you say it is not one of them. It appears very well made, with wings built into the bodywork (not cycle-type wings) and a fully-stocked dash and interior furnishings. So it's unlikely to have been made for trials work alone.

It's not a Paramount, because there are cut-away doors and a single pane screen. Is it a Buckler?

I think its an Italian S.C.O.T. Italmechannica supercharger.

I havent got a clue what the car is, been through all of my ideas and got nowheres.

Guessing its a one off at this point.

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2013, 02:29:44 PM »
The supercharger was a Marshall derived from Rootes. Not a proper one-off, but the number of car produced was very little.

Online nicanary

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 18598
  • Country: gb
  • Puzzle Points 648
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2013, 02:54:00 PM »
Thank you for your clue. You're right, this car is obscure. I thought I knew a bit about 1950s British cars, but this one is new to me.

After much investigation, I have found your puzzle images. The car is a Nordec from 1949, built by the North Downs Engineering Co in Whyteleaf, Surrey. They had obtained sole rights to Marshall superchargers and Ballamy i.f.s. and decided to build their own car to promote these products. This car is the prototype, and was shown to "The Autocar" and described in their issue of 25 March 1949. It used a stretched Ford 8hp chassis, with the s/c Ford 10hp engine. The photo clearly shows the remote gear linkage required.

The magazine were told that the production models would be lower and more sporting, but I reckon they never made any. Georgano mentions the car, but does not give production figures.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: TGF-43
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2013, 03:06:51 PM »
Well done, Nordec (North Dawn Engineering Co.) 1949

Offline WayneB

  • Expert
  • *
  • Posts: 905
  • Country: ca
  • Puzzle Points 205
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Solved TGF-43: Nordec 1949
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2013, 02:53:41 PM »
Looks like a baby Allard K1.

Offline Carnut

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 40954
  • Country: gb
  • Puzzle Points 423
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Solved TGF-43: Nordec 1949
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2013, 07:46:11 PM »
Interests in life:  Cars, cars, cars - oh and ..er..cars