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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2013, 03:46:04 PM »
Is this vehicle used for the de-icing of aircraft?
Original answer, but no, no ice connection.

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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2013, 02:20:36 AM »
Repainting?

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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2013, 06:43:46 AM »
Some sort of roving TV or Movie producer truck?

I note that there appears to be a large locker on the left/normal drivers side, large windows, a very large entry door and the rear wheels seem to be quite odd and maybe even non-pneumatic.

I also note the top of the vehicle has been Photo-shopped a bit, presumably to remove the bits that would give us the answer.
This assumes something takes place on top of the vehicle??

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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2013, 07:04:14 AM »
Parcel loading from underneath?

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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2013, 07:07:56 AM »
Parcel loading from underneath?
Not that use.

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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2013, 10:28:40 AM »
I presume its unique body is designed to fit into or around the aircraft?

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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2013, 03:04:58 PM »
Electrical supply?

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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2013, 03:20:12 PM »
I presume its unique body is designed to fit into or around the aircraft?
It could seem so, but it is not.
Electrical supply?
Not for eletrical supply.
A little clue: the function of this truck isn't usually absolved by a vehicle, and every airport needs it.

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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2013, 03:37:41 PM »
Must be an Airfield Mobile Control Tower.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2013, 03:54:11 PM by WayneB »

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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2013, 05:29:48 PM »
I'm sorry, I see now that I missed an answer of Hiawatha (repainting), and another from Bill (tv-movie), anyway
Must be an Airfield Mobile Control Tower.
this is the right answer! I lock this quiz for WayneB who has two guess to identify the Brand of this mobile control tower.

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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2013, 06:17:02 PM »
Might be an idea to split the point TGF.

It will be almost impossible to ID the maker of the chassis in my opinion.

I think Wayne has done a very good research job, I spent hours on this one and I am not too bad at that type of research.

Done

Bill
« Last Edit: December 05, 2013, 02:19:18 AM by Bill Murray »
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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2013, 06:29:23 AM »
Perhaps I will do as you suggest Bill....but before I want to give WaineB the chance to be the only winner of this point.

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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2013, 06:37:45 AM »
OK, My Friend...
Just a thought of the moment yesterday.
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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2013, 10:42:39 AM »
Thanks for the support Bill, I appreciate it. :)

Sometimes it gets very "Dog Eat Dog" on this forum,  I like to post up a theory about a car even though I probably cant get the answer by myself, to help other members (multiple minds better than one)

Getting back to this one, I guess it may be East German and based on an IFA chassis, I don't think its Russian.

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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2013, 10:43:29 AM »
It is Russian, so not IFA.  Last try before unlock.

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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2013, 10:46:04 AM »
OK, I will try GAZ.

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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2013, 04:06:34 PM »
Not a Gaz. Unlocked.

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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2013, 04:29:23 PM »
Hi TGF/Wayne:

I don't want to stay off topic too long here, but I agree with you that it gets a bit frustrating here from time to time when all we are doing is trying to solve a riddle.

For my part, I came here to learn, just as much as to compete for puzzle points.

Speaking of learning, in now looking at hundreds and hundreds of photos of airfield support vehicles, I have learned that the markings on the lower part of the vehicle seem to be the standard identification method for mobile air traffic control towers worldwide.
The alternating squares are painted red and white.

As well, some of these vehicles are quite sophisticated.  I found several that had a mechanical type of "scissors" mechanism for the rear body so it could be lifted up several meters for better visibility and then lowered again for normal driving.

Another bonus for me regarding this puzzle is that I found 4 images of WWII vehicles of this type which I have now added to my document files  as they fit into my primary field of research.

Keep going Wayne and if I find anything of interest I will post it if I think it might help.  Right now I am lost as the puzzle vehicle does not fit any identification characteristic criteria that I have seen.

Bill
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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2013, 05:30:34 PM »
Hows about ZIL?

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Re: TGF-271
« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2013, 05:49:54 PM »
Hows about ZIL?
Yes !!!! It's a ZIL SA H Aerodrome.  ;D A point to WaineB and my congratulation.

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Re: Solved TGF-271: ZIL, SA H Aerodrome
« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2013, 06:20:44 PM »
And congratulations to you for a fascinating puzzle.   :applause:
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The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

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Re: Solved TGF-271: ZIL, SA H Aerodrome
« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2013, 06:32:32 PM »
Thanks for the point TGF. :)

Have you got an un doctored photo of it?

Still cant find an image of it on the internet.

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Re: Solved TGF-271: ZIL, SA H Aerodrome
« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2013, 07:30:09 PM »
Bravo, Wayne................... :applause: :applause:

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Re: Solved TGF-271: ZIL, SA H Aerodrome
« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2013, 03:32:50 AM »
I've been working 7 months in a TWR like the following one, but can't imagine how it could be in THAT!

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Re: Solved TGF-271: ZIL, SA H Aerodrome
« Reply #49 on: December 06, 2013, 07:30:07 AM »
I'm sorry but I can't find the original photo...who knows where I've stored it among the other about 175.000 I have.  If if will find it I'll post it, anyway I remenber there is no caption or further informations but the fact it's a Zil SAH, from 1966, and it was used as a control aerodrome vehicle.