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Re: Allemano's № 899
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2013, 10:15:23 AM »
Unfortunately I just have this image.  Google doesn't help in finding the diesel engine
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Re: Allemano's № 899
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2013, 10:18:00 AM »
Wow! Thanks for the pic!

It's a very special Diesel engine. Locked for you to find at least some of the specs.

BTW: Google actually helps when you type in the right keywords. Maybe you have to ask what kind of Diesel it had...
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Re: Allemano's № 899
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2013, 12:58:14 PM »
Quote from: Allemano on October 15, 2013, 09:05:15 AM
Quote from: Wendax on October 15, 2013, 08:41:38 AM
Hmmm, it doesn't look like steam or electric engine, Diesel was already established, Wankel not ready yet. That leaves for example a radial star engine.
It's not a radial engine, but one of those you mention.

Building on your answer to Wendax suggestion, I wonder if it could be a diesel-electric engine such as those used in locomotives.
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Re: Allemano's № 899
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2013, 01:45:01 PM »
Quote from: pguillem on October 15, 2013, 12:58:14 PM
Quote from: Allemano on October 15, 2013, 09:05:15 AM
Quote from: Wendax on October 15, 2013, 08:41:38 AM
Hmmm, it doesn't look like steam or electric engine, Diesel was already established, Wankel not ready yet. That leaves for example a radial star engine.
It's not a radial engine, but one of those you mention.

Building on your answer to Wendax suggestion, I wonder if it could be a diesel-electric engine such as those used in locomotives.
No. It's a Diesel engine, but not many companies used it of that configuration. So, it's not kind of a hybrid powerplant.
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Re: Allemano's № 899
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2013, 02:19:26 PM »
Please unlock this puzzle, as I'm not any good in Diesel mechanics.  I'm sure that another puzzler will find the answer.
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Re: Allemano's № 899
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2013, 02:27:01 PM »
I give you a point as you've provided the required details. Maybe someone else can give some more.
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Re: Allemano's № 899
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2013, 02:40:56 PM »
It is the Turner FWD prototype shown at the 1954 London show, with Whitson minibus body.
Its Turner-built 1.4 litre Rootes-blown two-stroke twin-cylinder List diesel engine, 4-speed David Brown gearbox and hypoid axle were mounted as a quick detachable unit. Two years later, a 4x4 pickup with a three-cylinder List diesel engine was shown.
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Re: Allemano's № 899
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2013, 02:53:03 PM »
And another point for Wendax!
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Re: Solved: Allemano's № 899 - 1954 Turner FWD prototype, coachwork by Withson b
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2013, 03:04:46 PM »
I'm sure Wendax meant Roots and not Rootes. I believe the 2 cylinder engine was called L40, whereas the 3 cylinder one was called L60. By the way, what does List mean?
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Re: Solved: Allemano's № 899 - 1954 Turner FWD prototype, coachwork by Withson
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2013, 03:07:20 PM »
I read something that it was originally constructed by the Austrian Jenbach company.
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Re: Solved: Allemano's № 899 - 1954 Turner FWD prototype, coachwork by Withson b
« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2013, 03:08:26 PM »
Roots!  :bag:

Professor Doctor Hans List founded AVL (Anstalt für Verbrennungskraftmaschinen List) in 1948 as an engineering bureau for his diesel engines.
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Re: Solved: Allemano's № 899 - 1954 Turner FWD prototype, coachwork by Withson
« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2013, 03:17:55 PM »
Quote from: Allemano on October 15, 2013, 03:07:20 PM
I read something that it was originally constructed by the Austrian Jenbach company.
List had just the engineering bureau AVL, no production facilities. The List diesel engines were built by Jenbacher and by Andritzer Maschinenfabrik in Graz.
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Re: Solved: Allemano's № 899 - 1954 Turner FWD prototype, coachwork by Withson
« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2013, 03:50:51 PM »
There's a typo in the title - the coachbuilder's name should be Whitson. See replies #25 and #31 for confirmation.
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Re: Solved: Allemano's № 899 - 1954 Turner FWD prototype, coachwork by Whitson
« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2013, 03:57:54 PM »
Thank you. Fixed.
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Re: Solved: Allemano's № 899 - 1954 Turner FWD prototype, coachwork by Whitson
« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2013, 08:40:49 AM »
Please help me with more information.
Can't find anything from this Turner company anywhere. They aren't the same as Turner Sports Cars. What was their full company name and address and their main products.

Thanks

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Re: Solved: Allemano's № 899 - 1954 Turner FWD prototype, coachwork by Whitson
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2013, 09:14:57 AM »
It was Turner's  Motor Manufacturing Co Ltd., Wolverhampton, building cars from 1911 to 1930, after an involvement in the Turner-Miesse and Seymour-Turner cars. After WW2 they were more into light delivery vehicles: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=14954
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