Author Topic: Solved: Rust never sleeps  (Read 3888 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62920
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2349
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #50 on: September 12, 2013, 02:24:49 AM »
Nice sleuthing, absolutely correct.

Now it's your turn to take a break while the others have a try at the next connection.

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #51 on: September 12, 2013, 06:03:18 AM »
Well, It's time for another shoot in the dark:   The bus Chausson was built in Asniere-sur-Seine, a little town near Paris where you can enter metro line 13;  so I guess the correct hint is number 22.  According to a metro map I found on the net, the 12th station of line 13 (in both directions) is Avenue Clemenceau.  So I'm forced to think that George Clemenceau is the customer of the next car.   As He died in 1929, the only rust suitable for this customer shoud be the Luc Court number 30, even I haven't found any clues about the cars He used.

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62920
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2349
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #52 on: September 12, 2013, 06:35:28 AM »
Well, It's time for another shoot in the dark:   The bus Chausson was built in Asniere-sur-Seine, a little town near Paris where you can enter metro line 13;  so I guess the correct hint is number 22.  According to a metro map I found on the net, the 12th station of line 13 (in both directions) is Avenue Clemenceau.  So I'm forced to think that George Clemenceau is the customer of the next car.   As He died in 1929, the only rust suitable for this customer shoud be the Luc Court number 30, even I haven't found any clues about the cars He used.
You found the right hint, but I was not exact enough when I formulated the hint. I meant that you have to leave 12 stations later, so it is not "Champs-Élysées – Clemenceau", but one station afterwards.

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #53 on: September 12, 2013, 08:38:12 AM »
Now I am really confused:  the 13th station in North direction is Miromesnil, in South direction is Invalides, but both Armandr de Miromensil (Death in 1796) and Napoleon (Death in 1821) never had a car. 
« Last Edit: September 12, 2013, 08:41:18 AM by targhediferro »

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62920
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2349
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #54 on: September 12, 2013, 09:08:09 AM »
22: In this town you have to enter metro line 13 and leave it at the 12th station. The station's name will give you the customers of the next car.
;)

Offline 4popoid

  • *
  • Posts: 4621
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 679
  • Also sprach Zarathustra
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #55 on: September 12, 2013, 02:46:34 PM »
Hint 22 & Rust 24?

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62920
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2349
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #56 on: September 12, 2013, 02:51:35 PM »
Identify Rust 24 and you will find the answer to your question.  ;)

Offline 4popoid

  • *
  • Posts: 4621
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 679
  • Also sprach Zarathustra
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #57 on: September 12, 2013, 03:02:47 PM »
Yes, identifying Rust 24 is the problem.

I think the Hint 22 metro station you are looking for is Invalides.  If this is correct, the I think the Rust we are looking for is an invalid transporter. 

I think Rust 24 might be an invalid transporter, but I haven't been able to determine that for sure (I'm traveling, and don't have any reference material with me), let alone which marque.

Hence, Hint 22 - Invalides station & Rust 24, an invalid transporter.   

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62920
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2349
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #58 on: September 12, 2013, 03:25:39 PM »
Your deduction is correct, but the invalid carriage we are looking for is not Rust 24.

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #59 on: September 12, 2013, 03:56:53 PM »
Perhaps we could say that every sick man is invalid for a while, so the rust we are searching for may be n.20, an ambulance!

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62920
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2349
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #60 on: September 12, 2013, 04:09:39 PM »
Nice idea, but we are looking for a real invalid carriage.

Offline 4popoid

  • *
  • Posts: 4621
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 679
  • Also sprach Zarathustra
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #61 on: September 12, 2013, 06:56:34 PM »
Like previously I can't provide an identity, but there is only one other Rust that appears to resemble an invalid carriage,  So: Hint 22 & Rust 6.

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62920
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2349
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #62 on: September 13, 2013, 02:19:15 AM »
That little bugger has made its appearance at AutoPuzzles before.  :)

Offline 4popoid

  • *
  • Posts: 4621
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 679
  • Also sprach Zarathustra
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #63 on: September 13, 2013, 02:55:16 AM »
Is the identification I'm looking for the Russian SMZ S-3D, later - SeAZ S-3D?

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62920
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2349
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #64 on: September 13, 2013, 03:06:01 AM »
No

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #65 on: September 13, 2013, 03:42:23 AM »
Pilcar?

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62920
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2349
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #66 on: September 13, 2013, 04:14:34 AM »
No

Offline Tom_I

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 1381
  • Country: gb
  • Puzzle Points 475
  • Toying around
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #67 on: September 13, 2013, 06:42:18 AM »
That little bugger has made its appearance at AutoPuzzles before.  :)

It does help when you know where to look - still not that easy to find, though.  ;)

So to recap, we start from Rust 4, the Chausson bus, built in the outskirts of Paris. Then it's Hint 22:
Quote
22: In this town you have to enter metro line 13 and leave it at the 12th station. The station's name will give you the customers of the next car

The nearest metro station to the main Chausson factories is Asnières - Gennevilliers - Les Courtilles on Line 13. Ride for 12 stations and you arrive at Invalides, indicating that invalids or disabled people would be the customers of the next car.

That's Rust 6, a Salamander invalid car, based on a modified Reliant Kitten chassis, and powered by an 1100 cc Ford engine. This was commissioned by the Social Services Department of a British city (I won't say which  ;) ) as a replacement for the Invacar vehicles. It was produced from 1981 to 1984, by which time specialist disabled vehicles had been made obsolete by the British "Motability" scheme, which aimed to provide standard production cars modified for use by disabled drivers.

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62920
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2349
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #68 on: September 13, 2013, 07:00:35 AM »
A perfect answer!
« Last Edit: September 13, 2013, 05:09:22 PM by Wendax »

Offline targhediferro

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 7789
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #69 on: September 13, 2013, 07:39:08 AM »
There will be a time when it will be forbidden to post quizzes about cars from '80s.... :yuck:.... ;D
« Last Edit: September 13, 2013, 07:41:21 AM by targhediferro »

Offline 4popoid

  • *
  • Posts: 4621
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 679
  • Also sprach Zarathustra
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #70 on: September 13, 2013, 10:28:36 AM »
Per Tom_I, Rust 6 is a British Salamander.

Hint 11 says: These two cars share their country of origin, but not the number of their wheels.

Rust 18 looks like it might be a British Scammel Scarab.

So: Hint 11 & Rust 18.

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62920
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2349
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #71 on: September 13, 2013, 01:09:36 PM »
That is three times a no, sorry.

Offline Ehhxekt

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 404
  • Country: hu
  • Puzzle Points 441
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #72 on: September 13, 2013, 04:20:04 PM »
Let’s see if this works:
Hint 13 – Rust 9: Aston Martin DBR1/300
Quote
13: This car's name was mostly an abbreviation for two cities involved in its existence. In one of those cities the driver of the next car was born.
Rust 9 is a crashed Aston Martin DBR1; it was British racing driver Brian Naylor who drove the car when the accident happened. His home town is Salford, one of the two cities (the other was Manchester) whose Social Services, as Tom_I wrote in his last post, commissioned a replacement for the Invacar vehicles, and whose partnership the name ’SalaMander’ hints at.

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62920
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2349
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #73 on: September 13, 2013, 05:11:56 PM »
Exactly!

Offline Tom_I

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 1381
  • Country: gb
  • Puzzle Points 475
  • Toying around
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Rust never sleeps
« Reply #74 on: September 15, 2013, 05:52:35 PM »
What intrigues me about this puzzle is that there can seem to be more than one plausible link at any stage. I have already gone completely wrong with one, and history may be about to repeat itself.  :-\

So from Rust 9, I can see two ways forward, one of which I am more in favour of, but which I can't resolve, and one which I can resolve, but which I am less sure of.

But I'll try Hint 3:
Quote
3: The place where this picture was taken sounds like the model name of the next car.

In Rust 9 the Aston Martin DBR 1/300 was crashed at the notorious Maison Blanche kink in the race circuit at Le Mans. Rust 21 is a Citroën DS "Le Léman" Coupé by Chapron.

A French speaker might not agree about the "sounds like" bit, but "Le Mans" sounds quite like "Léman", so I'll offer that as the link, with less than total confidence.