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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2013 => Topic started by: ropat53 on June 21, 2013, 01:06:58 AM
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Who is this?
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Pre WW1 car, WW1 uniform, 1940s spectators. Interesting. Was the driver connected with something extraordinary which happened in WW1 ?
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Pre WWI car yes but not a soldier. The driver was not connected with anything that happened in WWI, but he did become quite famous at one time.
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Argentine personality?
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No nothing to do with Argentina.
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Although the person in question doesn't look European, the other people in the picture do. Was the picture taken in Europe, with the puzzle subject as a visiting dignitary?
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The picture was taken in Europe, the puzzle subject was a resident of the country and not a dignitary.
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Kwame Nkruma?
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As I answered before not a dignitary and born a few years before Mr. Nkrumah and not in the Gold Coast.
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Paul Robeson in Spain during the Spanish Civil War?
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Not Paul Robeson and this picture was taken a few years after the Spanish Civil War had ended.
Not USA related in any way and it is not a military uniform.
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Is the person in question an actor, with the other persons being onlookers to an on location production, hence a vintage car in a more modern setting?
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Is the person in question an actor, with the other persons being onlookers to an on location production, hence a vintage car in a more modern setting?
The person in question is not an actor, it is not a film location but the other people are onlookers and the car is earlier than vintage in a more modern setting.
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Is the driver a sportsman?
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Not a sportsman, an employee.
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France,circa 1939 ?
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Yes France but later and on the occasion of ;)
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Yes France but later and on the occasion of ;)
Is this a celebration of the end of WW2 ?
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No nothing to do with any war, not a soldier.
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So he must be a chauffeur. Now we've got to solve why he was famous for a short time. Was he driving someone famous in this car in some sort of parade ?
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So he must be a chauffeur. Now we've got to solve why he was famous for a short time. Was he driving someone famous in this car in some sort of parade ?
Yes he was the chauffeur of a well known person that was a guest of honour during this celebration and is standing next to the car, not visible in the puzzle picture.
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Wild guess. Coco Chanel ?
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Not Coco Chanel and not fashion related.
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I would guess from the clothes of the spectators that this is no later than 1955, probably earlier. It's just a case of working out which celebration it was.
Is there a connection with motoring, or is it unconnected in any way ?
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Before 1955 and yes connected with motoring.
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Anything to do with the re-opening of Le Mans in 1949 ?
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No Le Mans connection and earlier.
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Perhaps a chauffeur associated with Ettore Bugatti?
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No the person he chauffeured was 25 years older than Ettore Bugatti.
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Perhaps a chauffeur associated with Philippe Pétain?
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yes connected with motoring.
No not Philippe Pétain, by the time this picture was taken the Maréchal had already been found guilty of treason and was imprisoned.
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An anniversary or re-enactment of the 1894 Paris–Rouen race?
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Anniversary yes, but not something that happened in 1894, but very close and not a race.
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50th Anniversary of the Paris Motor Show?? 1898-1948.
Bill
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50th Anniversary of the Paris Motor Show?? 1898-1948.
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Bill
Between the last two suggested dates but very close to the first one.
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50th anniversary of the Automobile Club de France 1895-1945
The man is named Zelele, he was the chauffeur of Cmte Albert de Dion
Original caption:
En 1945 a Paris, place de la Concorde, devant l'ACF (Automobile Club de France) le marquis Albert de Dion (qui a fonde l'Automobile Club le 12 novembre 1895) et son chauffeur abyssin Zelele, au volant de la Clement de Dion 1898 du Museon di Rodo (Uzes) --- In 1945 in Paris, marquis Albert de Dion (who founded Automobile Club de France on november 12, 1895) and his driver Zelele driving the 1898 Clement
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Now that was a fine group effort! :thumbsup:
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Yes that's right.
Please forgive the poor Google translation:
"Michel Zélélé son of a great Ethiopian leader was brought to France in 1896 by Henri d'Orléans, explorer prominent at the time. Zélélé literally fell into a swoon when he saw a car for the first time in his life.
The Comte d'Orleans recommended Michel Zélélé to a friend, Count de Dion. So at De Dion-Bouton he learned driving and mechanics with such passion that he became in 1900 the personal driver of the Comte de Dion. Besides his boss, he had the opportunity to drive many personalities, including King Leopold II and learned to drive to Belle Otero. What could be more normal so that it appears in photos and on official posters of the brand ...
After the death of the Marquis de Dion (now Marquis the death of his own father), entered the Zélélé Andre Vallut Service, one of the constructors of the Paris metro. Such record holder, he flew the De Dion-Bouton for over 50 years."
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Marvelous story, Ropat and thanks for this very interesting bit of history most of us would have otherwise never have known about.
Bill