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Re: ropat#61
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2013, 07:22:22 AM »
I would guess from the clothes of the spectators that this is no later than 1955, probably earlier. It's just a case of working out which celebration it was.

Is there a connection with motoring, or is it unconnected in any way ?
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Re: ropat#61
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2013, 09:35:27 AM »
Before 1955 and yes connected with motoring.
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Re: ropat#61
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2013, 09:44:15 AM »
Anything to do with the re-opening of Le Mans in 1949 ?
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Re: ropat#61
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2013, 10:55:08 AM »
No Le Mans connection and earlier.
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Re: ropat#61
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2013, 06:05:32 PM »
Perhaps a chauffeur associated with Ettore Bugatti?
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Re: ropat#61
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2013, 07:26:07 PM »
No the person he chauffeured was 25 years older than Ettore Bugatti.
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Re: ropat#61
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2013, 09:04:04 PM »
Perhaps a chauffeur associated with Philippe Pétain?
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Re: ropat#61
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2013, 10:42:26 AM »
Quote from: ropat53 on July 25, 2013, 09:35:27 AM
yes connected with motoring.

No not Philippe Pétain, by the time this picture was taken the Maréchal had already been found guilty of treason and was imprisoned.
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Re: ropat#61
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2013, 10:56:31 AM »
An anniversary or re-enactment of the 1894 Paris–Rouen race?
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Re: ropat#61
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2013, 11:46:39 AM »
Anniversary yes, but not something that happened in 1894, but very close and not a race.
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Re: ropat#61
« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2013, 12:06:49 PM »
50th Anniversary of the Paris Motor Show??  1898-1948.

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Re: ropat#61
« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2013, 01:24:02 PM »
Quote from: Bill Murray on July 26, 2013, 12:06:49 PM
50th Anniversary of the Paris Motor Show??  1898-1948.
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Between the last two suggested dates but very close to the first one.
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Re: ropat#61
« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2013, 01:34:01 PM »
50th anniversary of the Automobile Club de France 1895-1945
The man is named Zelele, he was the chauffeur of Cmte Albert de Dion

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En 1945 a Paris, place de la Concorde, devant l'ACF (Automobile Club de France) le marquis Albert de Dion (qui a fonde l'Automobile Club le 12 novembre 1895) et son chauffeur abyssin Zelele, au volant de la Clement de Dion 1898 du Museon di Rodo (Uzes) --- In 1945 in Paris, marquis Albert de Dion (who founded Automobile Club de France on november 12, 1895) and his driver Zelele driving the 1898 Clement
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Re: ropat#61
« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2013, 02:10:08 PM »
Now that was a fine group effort!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Solved ropat#61: Michel Zélélé Count Albert de Dion's chauffeur
« Reply #39 on: July 26, 2013, 04:33:32 PM »
Yes that's right.
Please forgive the poor Google translation:

"Michel Zélélé son of a great Ethiopian leader was brought to France in 1896 by Henri d'Orléans, explorer prominent at the time. Zélélé literally fell into a swoon when he saw a car for the first time in his life.
The Comte d'Orleans recommended Michel Zélélé to a friend, Count de Dion. So at De Dion-Bouton he learned driving and mechanics with such passion that he became in 1900 the personal driver of the Comte de Dion. Besides his boss, he had the opportunity to drive many personalities, including King Leopold II and learned to drive to Belle Otero. What could be more normal so that it appears in photos and on official posters of the brand ...
After the death of the Marquis de Dion (now Marquis the death of his own father), entered the Zélélé Andre Vallut Service, one of the constructors of the Paris metro. Such record holder, he flew the De Dion-Bouton for over 50 years."

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Re: Solved ropat#61: Michel Zélélé Count Albert de Dion's chauffeur
« Reply #40 on: July 26, 2013, 05:02:57 PM »
Marvelous story, Ropat and thanks for this very interesting bit of history most of us would have otherwise never have known about.

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