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Name car, driver and where, for one point
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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2013, 09:33:17 PM »
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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2013, 03:26:23 PM »
HW Aldington and Neil Berry conducting  a Frazer Nash in the 1934 Coupe Internationale des Alpes
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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2013, 06:30:02 PM »
No not HW Aldington and Neil Berry, not a Frazer Nash and not crossing the Alps.

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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2013, 07:26:41 AM »
Has the image been reversed ? It shows a RHD car, but I think it could be one of the South American "carrera" specials crossing the Andes. (Whitewall tyres are not really a British thing)
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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2013, 07:31:44 AM »
Not reversed as the numbers are the right way round.  But you may be onto something as Argentina and Uruguay kept left until 1944 and 1945 respectively.
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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2013, 07:57:35 AM »
Has the image been reversed ? It shows a RHD car, but I think it could be one of the South American "carrera" specials crossing the Andes. (Whitewall tyres are not really a British thing)
As D-TYPE stated, the picture has not been reversed and yes it is crossing the Andes, now you have to find out who's driving and what car.
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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2013, 09:04:58 AM »
I've never seen an "open" Carrera car before. I've found the results for the 1940 Gran Premio del Norte, but there is no No.44 (!). I had better start by working out which race - is it the 1939 Gran Premio del Norte?
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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2013, 09:48:33 AM »
Most "Carrera" cars seemed to be Chevrolets and Fords in the day but this has a little hint of Fiat, perhaps??
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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2013, 10:10:44 AM »
I've never seen an "open" Carrera car before. I've found the results for the 1940 Gran Premio del Norte, but there is no No.44 (!). I had better start by working out which race - is it the 1939 Gran Premio del Norte?
Not Gran Premio del Norte and a few years earlier - hint you already guessed it's crossing the Andes - 
Bill it's locked for nicanary, for one more try, not Ford, not Chevrolet, not FIAT and not a small car.

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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2013, 10:15:14 AM »
Desculpe, I missed the lock but at least I eliminated 3 marques for nicanary
Now I will shut up. ;D
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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2013, 10:31:31 AM »
That leaves Chrysler ! ?
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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2013, 10:44:36 AM »
Not Chrysler.
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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2013, 11:27:57 AM »
German maker?
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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2013, 11:30:54 AM »
Buick.? (Not that I know any more. We Europeans have very little information about these races)
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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2013, 11:39:03 AM »
Not German and not Buick

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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2013, 11:56:51 AM »
OK, I am known to have a very vivid imagination, but.....

This is a painting/rendering, not a true photograph and is subject to some "artistic license" as such.

If you squeeze your eyes just a bit, it does resemble a 1937 Hudson front end and I believe they were sold in Argentina with RHD.

Es posible??

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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2013, 12:37:48 PM »
OK, I am known to have a very vivid imagination, but.....

This is a painting/rendering, not a true photograph and is subject to some "artistic license" as such.

If you squeeze your eyes just a bit, it does resemble a 1937 Hudson front end and I believe they were sold in Argentina with RHD.

Es posible??

Bill
Yes this is a painting and definitely subject to more than some "artistic license".
You almost have the right marque and the year is close. You still have to find the driver and the race.

Not related to this puzzle, you mention you believe Hudson's were sold in Argentina, well some how or other, in larger or smaller quantities, just about every car ever made in just about every country in the world seems to have reached Argentina at some point.

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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2013, 01:04:58 PM »
Unfortunately I don't read Spanish, but it seems that the year is 1936, and the car is a Terraplane driven by Raul Riganti to 4th place in the Argentinian championship. The photo I have seen of the car does not show a roll cage and it seems unlikely that one was fitted in 1936 .
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2013, 01:22:39 PM »
Yes it's a 1936 Terraplane and Raul Riganti is the driver, all you are missing is the race,"across the Andes". The car has Terraplane written along the bonnet and it's not a roll cage it's the hood frame, well the artist's interpretation of a hood frame.
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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2013, 02:07:55 PM »
Is it the Gran Premio Internacional ?
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Re: ropat#11
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2013, 02:18:03 PM »
Now you've got all the answer. Raśl Riganti in his 1936 Terraplane, crossing the Andes during the 1936 "Gran Premio Internacional"