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Title: Solved: PN #500 -- Jenő Fejes' prototype, 1935
Post by: pnegyesi on June 07, 2013, 12:06:19 PM: For my 500th puzzle, I made a blunder. So I decided to delete it (though ropat53 received a point) and replace it with a more challenging picture

Who's the builder? And a year would also be great for a point
Title: Re: PN #500
Post by: targhediferro on June 07, 2013, 05:26:11 PM: Czech? If yes perhaps a Jawa.
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 08, 2013, 12:21:09 AM: not Czech
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Post by: ropat53 on June 08, 2013, 03:50:30 PM: I was wondering what had happened to the other puzzle very easy indeed, thank you for the point.

Is this puzzle car from UK?
Title: Re: PN #500
Post by: pnegyesi on June 08, 2013, 03:52:06 PM: not from UK
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Post by: targhediferro on June 08, 2013, 05:33:46 PM: Perhaps they are Fergat wheels...italian?
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Post by: ropat53 on June 08, 2013, 08:10:02 PM: German?
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 09, 2013, 12:36:51 AM: not Italian or German
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Post by: ropat53 on June 09, 2013, 07:23:48 PM: It is European, Austria?
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 10, 2013, 12:06:05 AM: It is European, not from Austria
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Post by: targhediferro on June 10, 2013, 06:49:43 AM: French? If yes, a Renault based?
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Post by: pguillem on June 10, 2013, 02:52:35 PM: Rosengart ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 10, 2013, 03:59:50 PM: It was not French
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Post by: thorax on June 12, 2013, 05:11:27 PM: from Spain?
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 13, 2013, 05:23:22 AM: not from spain
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Post by: nicanary on June 13, 2013, 05:56:02 AM: Tatra ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 13, 2013, 07:23:10 AM: Not from cz
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Post by: ropat53 on June 13, 2013, 09:08:00 AM: From Poland.
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 13, 2013, 10:13:21 AM: and not from Poland either
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Post by: nicanary on June 13, 2013, 11:02:32 AM: Not much left - Belgian ?
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Post by: ropat53 on June 13, 2013, 12:05:26 PM: USSR
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 13, 2013, 01:34:23 PM: not USSR or Belgium
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Post by: ropat53 on June 13, 2013, 02:20:30 PM: Holland
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 13, 2013, 02:51:35 PM: No
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Post by: ropat53 on June 13, 2013, 03:10:54 PM: Hungarian
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 13, 2013, 03:47:02 PM: This was the easy part :) Yes, this is Hungarian. It is not impossible to find the builder as he was known outside of Hungary as well.
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Post by: ropat53 on June 14, 2013, 12:05:58 AM: Did Josef Ganz have anything to do with this car, it looks somewhat related to the Standard Superior?
I know these are two questions, but can this car or the maker be found in your site?
Title: Re: PN #500
Post by: pnegyesi on June 14, 2013, 01:03:54 AM: It's not Josef Ganz. Yes, you can find the builder on my site, his other car got his own wikipedia page (in English)
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Post by: Wendax on June 14, 2013, 02:12:52 AM: Jenő Fejes?
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Post by: ropat53 on June 14, 2013, 09:33:48 AM: Janos Pentelényi of Pente 500
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 16, 2013, 04:11:19 PM: Locked for Wendax. It was built by Jenő Fejes. Give me a year and the point is yours
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Post by: Wendax on June 16, 2013, 04:45:14 PM: According to many sources he went bankrupt in 1929 and didn't design cars afterwards. So I try 1929, although the car looks a bit more modern than that.
Title: Re: PN #500
Post by: pnegyesi on June 17, 2013, 03:14:55 AM: Go with that hunch (the car is younger than 1929). You have one more try
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Post by: Wendax on June 17, 2013, 03:30:37 AM: I'll try 1934.
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 17, 2013, 03:36:19 AM: Okay, the point is yours as you were very close. As you pointed out Jenő Fejes, who built some interesting cars in the 1920s went bankrupt by 1929.
But he had one last try. A man, who interviewed his former collegaues in the 1960s claimed that he was financed by a blacksmith, but I recently received the puzzle photo from the family of a man, who was the real investor. This guy was a director of a furniture factory and Fejes approached him with a novel idea. The result was the puzzle car in 1935. Unfortunately technical details did not survive. There's another photo, which shows the front of the car, but I have yet to receive it.
Title: Re: Solved: PN #500 -- Jenő Fejes' prototype, 1935
Post by: Wendax on June 17, 2013, 04:06:26 AM: Interesting story, looking forward to the other picture's appearance. Thanks for the point.
Title: Re: Solved: PN #500 -- Jenő Fejes' prototype, 1935
Post by: Allan L on June 17, 2013, 04:35:39 AM: Here in Letchworth when the Ascot-Pullin motorcycle company moved to car production in 1928 they tried one of Fejes' designs but I have never seen a photo of the car that they made. I do not know if they made any, rather than assembling from imported parts, and it did not go into production here.
Title: Re: Solved: PN #500 -- Jenő Fejes' prototype, 1935
Post by: pnegyesi on June 17, 2013, 04:38:58 AM: Yeah, I tried to look into that. It seems the company was organised but I doubt if there were any cars assembled.