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Solved -PJ524- A.S.A. Guardian from a Fissore's project.
« on: April 14, 2013, 04:51:49 PM »
An easy one...but I'm going to ask a further question once the car is identified.


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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2013, 05:14:11 PM »
ASA Guardian, built by Advaced Security Agency from Milan, armoured car based on the military version of the Fiat Campagnola. The picture dates from around 1982.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2013, 05:16:12 PM by Wendax »

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2013, 05:18:25 PM »
OK..and that was the easy bit.
ASA never revealed how did they get the design of this vehicle.
It's not hard but quite interesting.


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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2013, 11:15:22 AM »
Are you looking for a designer's name or for an explanation?

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2013, 11:54:58 AM »
There is an interesting (and I hope quite unknown) story behind this vehicle.
I can't tell you much or it will be too easy but with some guesses in the right direction it should be done.
I won't lock it...the hard part cames now!
 

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2013, 11:58:53 AM »
It was featured in a group puzzle before and I think it was also Wendax who solved it...
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=19644.0

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2013, 12:05:24 PM »
So I guess it was not an inhouse design.

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2013, 12:15:14 PM »
It was featured in a group puzzle before and I think it was also Wendax who solved it...
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=19644.0
It is the ASA Guardian, but I'm looking for something else...
So I guess it was not an inhouse design.
Yep!

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2013, 12:17:23 PM »
Has it been designed by some famous designer/design studio?

Could it be a Giugiaro design?

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2013, 12:18:55 PM »
Did they use an already existing design made for another manufacturer?

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2013, 01:33:13 PM »
Has it been designed by some famous designer/design studio?

Could it be a Giugiaro design?
Yes\No.
Did they use an already existing design made for another manufacturer?
very likely...

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2013, 02:23:02 PM »
By an Italian designer?

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2013, 02:24:32 PM »
Yes!

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2013, 05:40:10 PM »
Boneschi?
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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2013, 06:00:15 PM »
Not Boneschi.

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2013, 04:44:48 AM »
Diomante?
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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2013, 04:08:16 PM »
Not Diomante.

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2013, 06:26:00 PM »
Pininfarina?
A car is for life, not just for Christmas.

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2013, 03:27:56 AM »
Not Pininfarina.

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2013, 05:40:24 AM »
Open Design?
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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2013, 06:17:31 AM »
Not Open Desing.

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2013, 12:51:53 AM »
Maggiora?

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2013, 03:52:31 AM »
Not Maggiora.

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2013, 07:03:40 AM »
Zagato (who made armoured cars and is also from Milan) comes to mind.

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Re: PJ - 524
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2013, 07:11:59 AM »
Not Zagato.
To help you all, it's not one of the obscure ones.