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Solved - NEH 3154: Anatoly Zaydelov's self-built Moskvich 407-based racer - 1961
« on: December 09, 2013, 07:23:38 AM »
What's this, what was it commonly known as and from when does it date - for 1 point?:

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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2013, 05:08:07 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2013, 06:58:34 AM »
Triumph base?
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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2013, 07:02:52 AM »
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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2013, 07:23:08 AM »
From USA ?
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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2013, 07:56:48 AM »
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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2013, 03:44:58 PM »
Saab Sonnet?
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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2013, 07:18:12 PM »
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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2013, 04:56:13 PM »
British ?
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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2013, 06:38:46 PM »
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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2013, 01:32:27 PM »
Soviet?
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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2013, 02:16:43 PM »
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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2013, 06:23:33 PM »
Unfortunately, I've lost my source. That's all I remember, hope that helps someone!
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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2013, 07:05:20 AM »
Anatoly Zaydelov from Leningrad in his self-built sportscar with Moskvich 407 engine racing in 1962.  The car is earlier than that as it also raced in 1961
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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2013, 09:03:40 AM »
Quote from: D-type on December 26, 2013, 07:05:20 AM
Anatoly Zaydelov from Leningrad in his self-built sportscar with Moskvich 407 engine racing in 1962.  The car is earlier than that as it also raced in 1961

The Leningrad and 1961 bits tie in with what I have but not the rest of it.
I'll lock this for you to dig into and see if you can come with the info I have, which I hope is right...!
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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2013, 10:00:59 AM »
My souce is Alexey Rogachev who is an expert on Soviet racing and host of a Russian-language website on the subject.  I have no reason to doubt what he wrote.

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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2013, 02:46:35 AM »
D-Type is right, to be fair.

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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2013, 07:18:25 AM »
Quote from: faksta on December 29, 2013, 02:46:35 AM
D-Type is right, to be fair.

(Sorry for jumping in)

Yes, he has PM'd me the proof I needed and I've already said by PM I'll move this one tomorrow and give him his point.  Just a couple of details I want to check on my other computer first!
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Re: NEH 3154
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2013, 03:50:21 PM »
Oh, OK then  :)
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Re: Solved - NEH 3154: Anatoly Zaydelov's self-built Moskvich 407-based racer - 1961
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2013, 06:47:46 AM »
Carnut, out of interest, what was the confusing pert? :)
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Re: Solved - NEH 3154: Anatoly Zaydelov's self-built Moskvich 407-based racer - 1961
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2013, 07:04:37 AM »
Quote from: faksta on December 30, 2013, 06:47:46 AM
Carnut, out of interest, what was the confusing pert? :)

Well, I had it as the ZIL-112S 'Golubaya Raketa' ('Blue Rocket') shown on its first outing in Leningrad 1961.
There was a picture of it in blue to back up the contention, though in the thread D-Type sent me it quoted that the car had appeared in white and in red but never in blue..  The picture is shown below.
Reading the thread D-Type sent me however it seems clear that the Golubaya Raketa was much earlier and this car is as solved by D-Type.  Google for ZIL-112S Golubaya Raketa however and you will get pictures showing this car..
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Re: Solved - NEH 3154: Anatoly Zaydelov's self-built Moskvich 407-based racer - 1961
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2013, 08:14:21 AM »
Uh..yes, this is the same car on the picture, Zaydelov's Moskvich special.
What is more, I have never heard ZIL 112S to be referred to as 'Blue Rocket' apart from in seemingly the same source as yours :P
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