Topic: Solved: PN #508 -- Yuzhou wagon, 1980s

[4popoid]

Thanks for the clues.  As you are aware, trying to sort out all the Chinese companies, mergers, and brands can be dizzying.  I think I may be making some progress, but I need to narrow my scope before proceeding further.  Is the motorcycle manufacturer, who also made buses, Lifan?

[pnegyesi]

no

[4popoid]

Not much progress the last couple of days, but I'm still at it.  Is the motorcycle manufacturer, who also made buses, GAC Group (officially Guangzhou Automobile Group Co Ltd)?

[pnegyesi]

no, this is a company which never ventured into cars before (or so it seems)

[4popoid]

Was the manufacturer of the puzzle vehicle Chongqing Special Purpose Use Vehicle Manufacturing Co Ltd.?  If so, I will try to locate a brand associated with them.

[pnegyesi]

The maker of the the puzzle car is located in Chongqing (but not Special Purpose Vehicle Co). The motorcycle company is headquartered somewhere else.

[4popoid]

I'm still working on this, albeit with growing frustration.  You say: "The motorcycle company is headquartered somewhere else."  Would this somewhere else be Nanjing?

[pnegyesi]

Sorry, the motorcycle company is also in Chonqing - I made a mistake with this.

[4popoid]

The motorcycle company being in Chongquing makes things a bit more complicated, as there are (were) several located there.  Nevertheless I'll stay at it, and begin with: China Jialing Industrial Co., Ltd. (Group) a state-owned listed company, whose holding company is China South Industry Corporation.

[pnegyesi]

and this earns you a lock. The motorcycle company is indeed Jialing. Now "all" you need to find is a subsidiary which proposed a car. There were reports about this subsidiary which mentioned a predecessor of this subsidiary, which made the puzzle car.

[4popoid]

Thank you for the lock.  I'm not sure if I will be able to solve this, given the complexity of the Chinese corporate world, but I will give it a try.

As I posted previously: "China Jialing Industrial Co., Ltd. (Group) a state-owned listed company, whose holding company is China South Industry Corporation."  Another subsidiary of China South Industry Corporation is: China Chang'an Automobile Group Co., Ltd., who, like Jialing, is also located in Chongquing.  China Chang'an Automobile Group Co., Ltd. had a predecessor company called: Chang'an Factory who began making a Willys Jeep knock-off in 1957.  While I haven't been able to locate a photograph of the puzzle vehicle, and while pictures that I have seen of the early Jeep vehicle look nothing like the puzzle vehicle, I will speculate that perhaps the puzzle vehicle was a later model produced by this factory which retained the same brand as the 1957 vehicle.  That brand was named after the river running through Chongquing, and was: Changjiang, which translates to: Yangtze River. 

[pnegyesi]

no, you are heading in the wrong direction. We are talking about a subsidiary of Jialing, not a subsidiary of China South

Still locked for another try

[4popoid]

Well I have found a brand of vehicle once made (60's and/or 80's depending on which blog one reads) in Chongquing whose maker apparently, at one time, had a relationship to Jialing, and a brand name which is now related to another subsidiary of Jialing.  Is the brand I am looking for: Yuzhou?

[pnegyesi]

 

And a very hard-earned point is now on its way to you

[4popoid]

Thanks Pal!  A very hard earned point it was.  I estimate that I put at least 40 hours into this project.  I'm probably crazy, but I have great difficulty giving up on a project, unless someone else solves it before I can.