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Re: NEH 2985
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2013, 05:25:43 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NEH 2985
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2013, 06:02:21 AM »
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Re: NEH 2985
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2013, 07:25:21 AM »
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Re: NEH 2985
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2013, 05:26:08 AM »
Sure the Pro's will be able to sort this one out..
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Re: NEH 2985
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2013, 05:49:01 AM »
British?

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Re: NEH 2985
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2013, 06:05:13 AM »
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Re: NEH 2985
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2013, 08:15:19 AM »
From Europe?

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Re: NEH 2985
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2013, 09:07:29 AM »
DAF by Michelotti ?

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Re: NEH 2985
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2013, 09:13:26 AM »
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Re: NEH 2985
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2013, 09:49:42 AM »
It's a 1964 Porsche 911 clay mock-up

Still called 901 at that time.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2013, 09:53:39 AM by Allemano »

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Re: NEH 2985
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2013, 10:13:39 AM »
It's a 1964 Porsche 911 clay mock-up

Still called 901 at that time.

Exactly!
I thought the production 911 was already out by 1964?

Here are more pictures of it:

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Re: Solved - NEH 2985: Porsche 901 clay mock-up - 1964
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2013, 10:17:29 AM »
Something in between I guess. Porsche changed from 901 to 911 in 1964, but don't know the exact day..

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Re: Solved - NEH 2985: Porsche 901 clay mock-up - 1964
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2013, 10:32:32 AM »
And a couple more pictures:

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Re: Solved - NEH 2985: Porsche 901 clay mock-up - 1964
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2013, 07:53:10 AM »
This car was designed by Graf Albrecht Goertz of BMW 507 fame. According to one of my books it dates from 1957 (!) which is possibly much more reliable.
It is also not correct to call it a 901 model. It was supposed to be a 356 successor, but the designation "901" wasn't born back then.
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Re: Solved - NEH 2985: Porsche 901 clay mock-up - 1964
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2013, 11:03:37 AM »
OK, thanks.  I'll change the heading.
But I'm not convinced 1957 is correct either; twin-headlights on a European car in 1957?  Hmmm..
I'm sure 1964 isn't right, as the new 911 was already out and seen by then, so it must be a much earlier proposal.  Possibly it's been lost in translation; maybe they meant to say it was an early proposal for what eventually turned out to be the 1964 911..?
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Re: Solved - NEH 2985: Early Goertz clay mock-up for the eventual Porsche 911
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2013, 11:12:44 AM »
I think 1957 is correct, though I have to rely on that book only.