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Re: NEH 2766
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2013, 05:31:18 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NEH 2766
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2013, 09:03:44 AM »
Moretti 750?
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Re: NEH 2766
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2013, 09:26:53 AM »
I'm working on the assumption that this is the US. I have a feeling that the car is GRP-bodied, since the original red colour extends right through to the dash -top, and the instrument binnacle is part of the one-piece moulding.

It's almost certainly not a volume-produced car - is it an American special ?
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Re: NEH 2766
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2013, 09:34:42 AM »
It's not a Moretti.
But I'm not sure where the work was done, but I don't think it was in the US.  It will have plenty of GRP in it but the original car on which it is based - which is in fact a volume-produced model! - was made of steel.
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Re: NEH 2766
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2013, 11:20:44 AM »
Is this a rebodied Austin-Healey Sprite ?
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Re: NEH 2766
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2013, 02:30:49 PM »
Is this a rebodied Austin-Healey Sprite ?

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Re: NEH 2766
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2013, 04:34:49 PM »
Presumably that also rules out Innocenti.

Is it Triumph based?
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Re: NEH 2766
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2013, 06:42:51 PM »
I've seen those wheels somewhere before. Is it an Osca ?
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Re: NEH 2766
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2013, 06:49:01 PM »
I've seen those wheels somewhere before. Is it an Osca ?

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Re: NEH 2766
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2013, 02:08:23 AM »
Is it Japanese?

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Re: NEH 2766
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2013, 04:19:14 AM »
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Re: NEH 2766
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2013, 08:32:18 AM »
Right, I'd better start asking questions. Italian ?
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Re: NEH 2766
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2013, 08:50:24 AM »
Right, I'd better start asking questions. Italian ?

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Re: NEH 2766
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2013, 09:05:30 AM »
If it's volume- produced, it's a Fiat. And are those the wheels from a 128 3p ?
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Re: NEH 2766
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2013, 10:45:26 AM »
If it's volume- produced, it's a Fiat. And are those the wheels from a 128 3p ?

Actually it's not a Fiat!
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Re: NEH 2766
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2013, 11:10:52 AM »
I'm getting old. I'm past my prime.

The rounded instrument binnacle and the wheels - it's an Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider. I have found reference to a 1957 Veloce model which had a similar customised front end, and was found wearing a "hardtop" made from a VW Beetle rear window. Is this the same car after work had been done ?
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Re: NEH 2766
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2013, 02:48:58 PM »
I'm getting old. I'm past my prime.

The rounded instrument binnacle and the wheels - it's an Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider. I have found reference to a 1957 Veloce model which had a similar customised front end, and was found wearing a "hardtop" made from a VW Beetle rear window. Is this the same car after work had been done ?

I think it probably is, yes.
It's a home-modified Giulietta Spider.
Can you post a picture of it wearing the hardtop?
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Re: Solved - NEH 2766: Home-modified 1957 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2013, 06:36:41 PM »
I found it mentioned on the Giulietta website, and also as an E-bay sale. This is the rear view - it's different, you have to say that.
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Re: Solved - NEH 2766: Home-modified 1957 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2013, 04:49:26 AM »
And this is a front view, which makes me think it is the same car as you selected for the puzzle. I believe the puzzle photo shows the car after the restoration work has been started, and the VW roof has been removed and replaced with a GRP (or VW steel!) rollover bar.
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Re: Solved - NEH 2766: Home-modified 1957 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2013, 05:51:41 AM »
Thanks.
It's so similar it must be the same car, although the front is rather different.  The nose on the puzzle car is longer and the headlight cutouts are a different shape..

Maybe your pictures are an earlier version!
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Re: Solved - NEH 2766: Home-modified 1957 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2013, 05:58:08 AM »
Thanks.
It's so similar it must be the same car, although the front is rather different.  The nose on the puzzle car is longer and the headlight cutouts are a different shape..

Maybe your pictures are an earlier version!

Crikey, you're right ! Maybe I've got this wrong, although it does seem unlikely that there were two cars of that similarity. Perhaps the new owner decided to make alterations which would make the car more aesthetically pleasing. I'll keep this car in mind in case I come across anything about it in the future.
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