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Ubb74 Donosti MMA/T94 1928
« on: March 20, 2013, 05:22:14 PM »
What's this and from when ?
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Re: Ubb74
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2013, 06:05:27 PM »
Hispano Suiza?

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Re: Ubb74
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2013, 03:58:40 AM »
Not Hispano-Suiza

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Re: Ubb74
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2013, 09:20:21 AM »
English car?

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Re: Ubb74
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2013, 11:38:23 AM »
Not English

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Re: Ubb74
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2013, 01:27:36 PM »
Italian?

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Re: Ubb74
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2013, 03:28:28 PM »
Not Italian either

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Re: Ubb74
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2013, 01:48:38 AM »
Delage?

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Re: Ubb74
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2013, 02:19:22 AM »
It looks French.

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Re: Ubb74
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2013, 05:37:40 AM »
Not French and therefore not Delage either

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Re: Ubb74
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2013, 10:45:31 AM »
Spanish?

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Re: Ubb74
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2013, 10:46:47 AM »

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Re: Ubb74
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2013, 11:08:23 AM »
Is it an Espana Tipo 2, from about 1922?
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Re: Ubb74
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2013, 01:25:19 PM »
Not an Espana (or Espaņa ?) and 1922 is quite a few years too early

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Re: Ubb74
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2013, 01:47:08 PM »
Donosti,  model T94, engine built in 1925 and car finished in 1928.
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Re: Ubb74
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2013, 05:24:42 AM »
Donosti 1928 is right, although my source has a different model specification (that's where I got the pic from). So I'll lock it for you to see if you can find the other model name, although T94 might be right as well.

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Re: Ubb74
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2013, 02:23:14 PM »
In the most part of the sources I found, the quiz car is actually described just as Donosti; otherwhere it's called Donosti 3 litre tourer.  The only source that added a proper model name, reported T94; but I don't know if it is correct.
The history of this car, anyway, is well known:  In San Sebastian (Donostia region), there was a Garage, called Garage International, n.7 Vial del Ategorrieta, Gipuzkoa (Royal Family's place for summer holidays) owned by Mr. Manero and Mr. Mendiburu, who sold different kind of luxury cars and parts.  They were friends of Mr. Leon Garnier, dealer of Hispano Suiza;  in first '20 they decided to build a their own car and began to project a new aluminium engine, based on several Hispano SUiza parts. The engine, 6c,3962cc  with IRZ carburator and Bosch magneto, was ready in 1925 and was displayed in Garage's window for some time.   At the beginning of 1926 that engine was mounted on a boat; perhaps the project of the car had a momentaneous stop. 
The car, whose body was realized by a local coachbuilder, was ready in 1928, and in July 25th, took part at Lasarte Gran Prix.   The car is now at Salamanca Museum.

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Re: Ubb74
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2013, 04:08:05 AM »
I'll give you the point because of your extensive work and because it is apparently not clear what the exact modelname is. My pic comes from a feature in a well known Spanish classic car magazine and there the car is called Donosti MMA from 1928. May be the Pros can tell more.

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Re: Ubb74 Donosti MMA/T94 1928
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2013, 06:31:06 AM »
I suppose MMA stands for Manero-Mendiburu model A...but it is only the most obvious solution.
Thank you for the point.