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Solved - NEH 2538: Col Alexandru Berlescu's V8 Ford Special Coupé on 1934 Alpenfahrt
« on: March 11, 2013, 09:07:32 AM »
What's this, from when, and where is it in the picture - for 1 point?:

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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2013, 11:30:50 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2013, 01:11:02 PM »
I remember of a look-a-like car from middle '30, but this seems to be a coupe, while that one was a roadster.
Was this car a one-off?
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2013, 02:21:23 PM »
This is Colonel Alexandru Berlescu's Ford V8 special.
A very intriguing car. We've had it here before though...
 
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2013, 05:04:51 PM »
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2013, 07:13:20 PM »
Quote from: Oswald on March 18, 2013, 02:21:23 PM
This is Colonel Alexandru Berlescu's Ford V8 special.
A very intriguing car. We've had it here before though...
 

That's the car, and it has indeed been pictured in the thread pointed out by PJ.
But it appears to me to be a different car from that in that it is a FHC rather than a roadster, as targhediferro said.  I believe it to be an earlier version; also the 2nd part of the question has still not been answered so the point isn't earned yet but I will lock it for Oswald for 24 hours to see if he can find out where it is pictured.

I'm not sure whether it should be merged when solved however, as it is not that convertible seen in the other puzzle, or if it is the same car then it's in a different form.  Maybe someone knows for sure?
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2013, 05:01:40 AM »
It was definitely modified more then once. I guess it could be on the 1935 Coppa D'Oro del Littorio here, supposedly the first race Berlescu entered the car in. But I do not know more.
 
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2013, 06:24:06 AM »
Quote from: Oswald on March 20, 2013, 05:01:40 AM
It was definitely modified more then once. I guess it could be on the 1935 Coppa D'Oro del Littorio here, supposedly the first race Berlescu entered the car in. But I do not know more.
 

I'm sure you're right about the modifications; the picture doesn't show it in that race however so this is open once more.
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2013, 01:51:27 PM »
Is it unlocked?
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2013, 02:02:15 PM »
As far as I can find the puzzle car is Alexandru Berlescu's Ford V8 with a special aluminium body. This body was made by SET Zamfirescu from Bucharest.  Here is another pic from the 1935 Rallye Bucuresti.
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2013, 02:45:56 PM »
Quote from: targhediferro on March 20, 2013, 01:51:27 PM
Is it unlocked?

Yes, open to all!

Quote from: mekubb on March 20, 2013, 02:02:15 PM
As far as I can find the puzzle car is Alexandru Berlescu's Ford V8 with a special aluminium body. This body was made by SET Zamfirescu from Bucharest.  Here is another pic from the 1935 Rallye Bucuresti.

The car and its builder has already been established, although it's not clear if it's the same car that has been puzzled before with quite different bodywork or if it's actually a different car.

All I'm waiting for now is for someone to tell me when and at which event the puzzle photo was taken?
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2013, 03:22:59 PM »
So the pic is not from 1935 ? How about 1934 ?
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2013, 03:48:29 PM »
I think that the picture was taken at Montecarlo rallye 1936, and that Barlescu transformed his roadster in a sort of coupè in order to prevent himself from the cold, as Montecarlo is raced on winter.
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2013, 07:33:34 PM »
Quote from: mekubb on March 20, 2013, 03:22:59 PM
So the pic is not from 1935 ? How about 1934 ?

1934 is right..

Quote from: targhediferro on March 20, 2013, 03:48:29 PM
I think that the picture was taken at Montecarlo rallye 1936

..but this isn't though!

Quote from: targhediferro on March 20, 2013, 03:48:29 PM
Barlescu transformed his roadster in a sort of coupè in order to prevent himself from the cold


..but you could be right there!
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2013, 08:10:41 AM »
Surely he didn't enter that monstrosity in the Concours d'Elegance ?

Silly me, I meant the Concours de Confort.
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2013, 08:25:42 AM »
Quote from: nicanary on March 21, 2013, 08:10:41 AM
Surely he didn't enter that monstrosity in the Concours d'Elegance ?

Silly me, I meant the Concours de Confort.

Have you got the right puzzle?!
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2013, 08:39:08 AM »
Quote from: Carnut on March 21, 2013, 08:25:42 AM
Quote from: nicanary on March 21, 2013, 08:10:41 AM
Surely he didn't enter that monstrosity in the Concours d'Elegance ?

Silly me, I meant the Concours de Confort.

Have you got the right puzzle?!

 :lmao: I thought you were hinting it WAS the Monte but not the competitive bit. Bill Couper's Bentleys it is not.
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2013, 09:11:12 AM »
Quote from: nicanary on March 21, 2013, 08:39:08 AM
:lmao: I thought you were hinting it WAS the Monte but not the competitive bit. Bill Couper's Bentleys it is not.

Nothing to do with the Monte!
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2013, 05:41:04 PM »
Thinking over the cold weather that was referred to earlier, and the fact that the event was not the Monte, I had to think about the Austrian-Swiss Alps. So looking for Alpen and ford V8 in German I came across the puzzle pic. It is the 1934 Alpenfahrt that you are looking for I believe.
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Re: NEH 2538
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2013, 06:19:49 AM »
Quote from: mekubb on March 21, 2013, 05:41:04 PM
Thinking over the cold weather that was referred to earlier, and the fact that the event was not the Monte, I had to think about the Austrian-Swiss Alps. So looking for Alpen and ford V8 in German I came across the puzzle pic. It is the 1934 Alpenfahrt that you are looking for I believe.

Yes, you found it!
Well done.
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Re: Solved - NEH 2538: Col Alexandru Berlescu's V8 Ford Special Coupé on 1934 Alpenfahrt
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2023, 08:07:51 PM »
Another image of the coupe:
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