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Solved - NEH 2383: Jowett ERA Javelin prototype - 1950
« on: January 14, 2013, 07:22:48 AM »
What's this and from when does it date - for 1 point?:

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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2013, 06:28:04 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2013, 07:43:13 AM »
German ? Veritas ?

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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2013, 08:00:11 AM »
Front lights and the fender's shape remember me the Ford Consul mkI, but it had front engine...and there is no grille...perhaps a prototype?

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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2013, 08:01:48 AM »
German ? Veritas ?

Only 1 question at once don't forget!
It's not German, ergo it can't be a Veritas either..
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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2013, 08:02:55 AM »
Front lights and the fender's shape remember me the Ford Consul mkI, but it had front engine...and there is no grille...perhaps a prototype?

It is a prototype, yes, but there's no Ford connection.
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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2013, 09:24:37 AM »
any relation with powerdrive?

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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2013, 09:47:04 AM »
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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2013, 10:35:51 AM »
Panhard-dyna?

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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2013, 10:38:08 AM »
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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2013, 10:39:25 AM »
Is it european?

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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2013, 01:44:06 PM »
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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2013, 02:30:06 PM »
Autobleu?

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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2013, 05:41:47 PM »
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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2013, 06:00:31 PM »
There could be a small hint of steering wheel on the left side of the photo.

So British then?
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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2013, 06:07:43 PM »
There could be a small hint of steering wheel on the left side of the photo.

So British then?

Indeed!
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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2013, 06:08:14 PM »
rear engined?
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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2013, 06:10:32 PM »
 1950 Jowett ERA Javelin prototype.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2013, 06:24:15 PM by WayneB »

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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2013, 11:27:19 PM »
Was there a car called the paramount?

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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2013, 04:34:36 AM »
rear engined?

No..

Was there a car called the paramount?

There was, but this isn't one; have a look here:  www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=1686.0

1950 Jowett ERA Javelin prototype.

..because this is what it is, yes, the Jowett Javelin prototype with ERA-tuned mechanics.
But I'd love to know how you managed to find that before I award the point?  PM me if you like!

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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2013, 10:03:15 AM »
At first I thought it may be Standard Vanguard variant (because of the shape of the fenders and the V windscreen, but then I remembrered the Jowett Javelin had a similar look) so I googled Jowett prototype and found it from there I think.

I am old enough to have seen Jowetts on the street when I lived in England in the early 60's as a kid (they were old bangers then)

BTW I am a retired car designer, so I look at shapes and anylise them out of habit.

If you think I am a cheating , dont bother to give me the point, I just like remembering the cars and finding out about the ones I dont know. :)
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Re: NEH 2383
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2013, 04:54:31 AM »
Thanks Wayne.
I'm happy to give you the point; you clearly know plenty..
Well done.
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Re: Solved - NEH 2383: Jowett ERA Javelin prototype - 1950
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2013, 01:02:44 PM »
I am looking for more pictures of this car. If you have them please put them on autopuzzles.

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Re: Solved - NEH 2383: Jowett ERA Javelin prototype - 1950
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2013, 02:24:35 PM »
I am looking for more pictures of this car. If you have them please put them on autopuzzles.

I wish I had.
I've only been able to find this one photo of it on just one location on the entire Internet; that's why I thought it would be a real teaser and take a lot of solving.  But WayneB is too much of an Expert for that!
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Re: Solved - NEH 2383: Jowett ERA Javelin prototype - 1950
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2013, 04:58:33 PM »
I am looking for more pictures of this car. If you have them please put them on autopuzzles.

This picture appeared in an Autpuzzles article about Jowetts.