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Solved - NEH 2710: Pinin Farina BMW 501 prototoype - 1950
« on: June 04, 2013, 07:38:01 AM »
What's this, by whom, from when - for 1 point?:

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Re: NEH 2710
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2013, 05:35:19 AM »
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Re: NEH 2710
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2013, 07:26:47 AM »
I thought this was simple, but then I can't find the answer. Italian ?
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Re: NEH 2710
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2013, 07:37:41 AM »
I thought this was simple, but then I can't find the answer. Italian ?

Not Italian!
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Re: NEH 2710
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2013, 08:09:55 AM »
1951 BMW 501 by Pininfarina. (Your photoshopping of the grille had me confused - I thought it might be a Lancia B10)

Whoops. A Russian site (my cyrillic is weak) claims that the car dates from 1949 and is a prototype for the 501 - BMW felt that the design was too similar to Pininfarina's Alfa design and stayed with their in-house attempt. Certainly the perforated steel wheels are covered up in the 1951 showing, but apart from that they appear to be the same car. Do you know more ?
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Re: NEH 2710
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2013, 08:42:26 AM »
It seems BMW asked Pininfarina for a 501 in February 1950 and that the car was ready in only two months. I'm sure Nicanary is correct in assuming only one car was ever made.

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Re: NEH 2710
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2013, 09:24:08 AM »
1951 BMW 501 by Pininfarina. (Your photoshopping of the grille had me confused - I thought it might be a Lancia B10)

Whoops. A Russian site (my cyrillic is weak) claims that the car dates from 1949 and is a prototype for the 501 - BMW felt that the design was too similar to Pininfarina's Alfa design and stayed with their in-house attempt. Certainly the perforated steel wheels are covered up in the 1951 showing, but apart from that they appear to be the same car. Do you know more ?

Indeed that's what it is, although from Hiawatha's information below it would seem to be 1950 rather than 1951.
BMW grilles are just a bit too much of a giveaway!
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Re: Solved - NEH 2710: Pinin Farina BMW 501 prototoype - 1950
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2013, 11:14:53 AM »
I've just recapped my solving - my date of 1951 came from a well-known French forum site, and I sort of assumed it would be right. The only discernable difference between the car as first seen and the 1951 photos are the chromed/domed hubcaps which cover the BMW steel wheels. A rather more attractive car,IMHO,than the "baroque angel".
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Re: Solved - NEH 2710: Pinin Farina BMW 501 prototoype - 1950
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2015, 03:58:00 PM »
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