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Solved - MJW #1110 - BMS 4CV Barquette by Chappe Frères 1950
« on: February 01, 2013, 02:13:43 AM »
Now let me tell you that this car has been puzzled before but not in this form (so technically not really a repost).

For a point identify the make, year and the coachbuilder responsible for the body.

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Re: MJW #1110
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2013, 04:52:21 AM »
Experts' turn now

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Re: MJW #1110
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2013, 06:44:10 AM »
Gordini connections?

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Re: MJW #1110
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2013, 07:12:16 AM »
Panhard ?

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Re: MJW #1110
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2013, 09:33:34 AM »
Gordini connections?
No Gordini connection.....

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Re: MJW #1110
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2013, 09:34:09 AM »
Panhard ?
No Panhard connection either

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Re: MJW #1110
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2013, 09:52:49 AM »
BMW connection?

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Re: MJW #1110
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2013, 09:57:46 AM »
BMW connection?
Nothing to do with BMW

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Re: MJW #1110
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2013, 10:59:42 AM »
Deutsch-Bonnet Citroen Barquette?

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Re: MJW #1110
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2013, 12:33:04 PM »
this is a Deutch-Bonnet DB5 probably from 1949

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Re: MJW #1110
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2013, 01:08:17 PM »
Not a Deutsch-Bonnet.....

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Re: MJW #1110
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2013, 01:18:46 PM »
I know this car, but I can not remember its name...
Another question: French, Renault 4CV-based?

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Re: MJW #1110
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2013, 02:16:37 PM »
I found. Renault 4CV, modified in 1950 by driver Guy Michel et mechanic Camille Bosvin (BMS - Bosvin-Michel Spéciale)
Another 4CV - http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=14621.0 
A rear view:

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Re: MJW #1110
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2013, 03:08:17 PM »
I found. Renault 4CV, modified in 1950 by driver Guy Michel et mechanic Camille Bosvin (BMS - Bosvin-Michel Spéciale)
Another 4CV - http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=14621.0 
A rear view:
Yes that's the car!
It has been puzzled before but before I award you a point, can you tell me which version this one is (there were three different bodies) and who the coachbuilder was of this version?
LOCKED for you

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Re: MJW #1110
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2013, 03:36:17 PM »
body by Chappe brothers (later known as Chappe et Gessalin)?

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Re: MJW #1110
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2013, 07:24:13 PM »
body by Chappe brothers (later known as Chappe et Gessalin)?
That's correct!
This was the car's first body.....
Another point for you.

Here's the original photo -

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Re: MJW #1110
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2013, 07:33:11 PM »
I just want to point out the previous puzzles featuring the BMS to avoid future confusion -

MJW #1110 - BMS 1st body (as originally built)
NEH #1731 - BMS 2nd body (the interim version)
Barrett #86 - BMS 3rd body (the final version)
« Last Edit: February 07, 2013, 07:36:13 PM by woodinsight »

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SAC#1759 : 1950 BMS Renault 4CV barquette by Chappe
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2023, 04:42:53 PM »
Please , what is this car , for 1 point !  :)

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Re: SAC#1759
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2023, 07:20:18 AM »
Experts !

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Re: SAC#1759
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2023, 01:15:56 PM »
Italian?
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Re: SAC#1759
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2023, 05:27:12 AM »
Not Italian !

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Re: SAC#1759
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2023, 01:54:10 PM »
1950 BMS Renault 4CV barquette by Chappe

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Re: SAC#1759
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2023, 02:03:31 PM »
I saw this car 2 days ago, it was a woodinsight puzzle in 2013.  we need memory for this game ;)

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Re: SAC#1759
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2023, 02:17:25 AM »
 :thumbsup:
1950 BMS Renault 4CV barquette by Chappe
1 point for BERTRAND !  :)

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Re: Solved - MJW #1110 - BMS 4CV Barquette by Chappe Frères 1950
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2023, 02:55:18 AM »
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