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Solved - MJW #1101 - Hispano-Suiza K6 FHC by Nabeshima 1935/38
« on: January 27, 2013, 10:34:28 AM »
A luxurious fixed head coupe that must have been somewhat claustrophobic in the rear.

Identify the make, model, year and coachbuilder for one point.

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Re: MJW #1101
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2013, 01:24:04 PM »
Experts?

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Re: MJW #1101
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2013, 02:18:12 PM »
Bentley ?

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Re: MJW #1101
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2013, 02:18:42 PM »
Not a Bentley

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Re: MJW #1101
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2013, 02:20:23 PM »
British ?

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Re: MJW #1101
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2013, 02:21:38 PM »

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Re: MJW #1101
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2013, 02:27:02 PM »
French ?

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Re: MJW #1101
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2013, 02:30:27 PM »

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Re: MJW #1101
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2013, 03:25:31 PM »
My first thought was Delage or Delahaye, but I try something different : Hispano-Suiza J12 1935

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Re: MJW #1101
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2013, 03:44:26 PM »
I think you are close mekubb.  That big blocky hood sure looks like a Hispano.  However, I don't think that hood looks right for a J12.  I'm going to call it a: 1935 Hispano-Suiza K6.  

The coachbuilder is something of a mystery.  I would normally say Swiss, but several things don't look quite right.  I'll see if I'm close on the chassis, then dig deeper.

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Re: MJW #1101
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2013, 01:49:06 AM »
Yes it's a Hispano-Suiza but not a J12.
It is a K6 that is a few years younger than 1935.
I won't lock it yet as 4popold and mekubb both guessed the chassis make but I might lock it if one of them comes up with the correct year.

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Re: MJW #1101
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2013, 02:50:33 AM »
I think we have a problem.  All my references say that the Hispano-Suiza K6 was not released until 1934.  One reference specifically says August 1, 1934.  So either the puzzle car is a '34 (and not "a few years younger" than our '35 estimate), or it isn't a K6.  If your reference shows a '31/'32, it is likely a HS26, or Ballot, model, which the K6 replaced.  

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Re: MJW #1101
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2013, 03:27:17 AM »
I think we have a problem.  All my references say that the Hispano-Suiza K6 was not released until 1934.  One reference specifically says August 1, 1934.  So either the puzzle car is a '34 (and not "a few years younger" than our '35 estimate), or it isn't a K6.  If your reference shows a '31/'32, it is likely a HS26, or Ballot, model, which the K6 replaced.  
Apologies I should have made it clearer - by younger I meant the car was built later than 1935.....

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Re: MJW #1101
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2013, 04:12:01 AM »
I found a picture of the car in a Japanese Auto Museum, saying that it's a 1935 Hispano-Suiza K6. But it didn't say who was responsible for the body. Could it be a bodied by a Japanese company ?


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Re: MJW #1101
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2013, 06:04:22 AM »
I found a picture of the car in a Japanese Auto Museum, saying that it's a 1935 Hispano-Suiza K6. But it didn't say who was responsible for the body. Could it be a bodied by a Japanese company ?


I now believe the chassis dated from 1935 but the bodywork was built later.
Yes, it's a Japanese-built body...

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Re: MJW #1101
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2013, 09:03:15 AM »
The only name(s) that appear in relation to this Hispano-Suiza are Nabeshima Naohiro

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Re: MJW #1101
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2013, 12:33:08 PM »
I think that we have located the same reference mekubb.  The car in the Japanese museum is reputed to be a: 1935 Hispano-Suiza K6 with a "body designed by NABESIMA".  Apparently Mr. Nabesima was the owner/designer, but the body was actually built by unnamed "Japanese craftsmen".

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Re: MJW #1101
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2013, 01:14:35 PM »
Well you are both correct in naming Nabeshima as the designer/owner and I'm sure that the car was constructed by Japanese artisans (who remain unknown for now).

I'm going to award you both a point as you have obviously been working hard to solve this one.
Any further information is, of course, very welcome.

Here's another view of the car -