Author Topic: Solved - MJW #1091 - PhotoShopped image (fake Autosan H9 Double-Decker) (Read 1072 times)

woodinsight · « **on:** January 19, 2013, 05:02:12 AM »

All I need for the point is the make and model of this double-decker

woodinsight · « **Reply #1 on:** January 23, 2013, 02:35:13 AM »

del78 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 23, 2013, 02:56:19 AM »

it is photoshoped Autosan H9 from Poland
name of the company written on its sides was PKS Katowice

woodinsight · « **Reply #3 on:** January 23, 2013, 04:46:16 AM »

Quote from: del78 on January 23, 2013, 02:56:19 AM

it is photoshoped Autosan H9 from Poland
name of the company written on its sides was PKS Katowice

I knew one of our Polish members would get this one easily....

Another point for you and here's the view of the photo (shopped?) image I took it from -

Wendax · « **Reply #4 on:** January 23, 2013, 04:54:03 AM »

It surely is photoshopped. If you look at the upper windows, they are (from left to right) the 6th, the 2nd, the 3rd, again the 2nd, the 5th and again the 3rd window of the original one-deck bus.

Carnut · « **Reply #5 on:** January 23, 2013, 04:57:11 AM »

If it's Polish why doesn't it have the entry/exit door/s on the right-hand side?

Wendax · « **Reply #6 on:** January 23, 2013, 05:03:54 AM »

Well, I can see two doors.

del78 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 23, 2013, 05:16:53 AM »

take a look at shadow below this bus
it surely is too short

Carnut · « **Reply #8 on:** January 23, 2013, 05:20:07 AM »

Quote from: Wendax on January 23, 2013, 05:03:54 AM

Well, I can see two doors.

Yes, but the front one looks like a driver's door (although I agree it could be for passengers, but only on a touring coach not on a double-decker - if it was one!) and the rear one is an emergency door.

Carnut · « **Reply #9 on:** January 23, 2013, 05:21:10 AM »

Perhaps it's another (double-deck) bus parked behind a single-decker?!

del78 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 23, 2013, 05:26:24 AM »

normal Autosan looks like this

Wendax · « **Reply #11 on:** January 23, 2013, 05:40:22 AM »

Quote from: Carnut on January 23, 2013, 05:21:10 AM

Perhaps it's another (double-deck) bus parked behind a single-decker?!

Have a close look at the windows, they are 1:1 copies. You can find several clumsily photoshopped lines (roof, rests of the door gap below the left upper window, etc.).

woodinsight · « **Reply #12 on:** January 23, 2013, 05:48:47 AM »

Hmmm - I thought it looked a bit odd but I didn't really question it as there is apparently an H10 model double-decker and I just assumed this may have been a prototype......
From one who isn't familiar with PhotoShop - my apologies

Wendax · « **Reply #13 on:** January 23, 2013, 05:52:58 AM »

Don't worry, it could have happened to me too. Just when del78 pointed out that it was photoshopped, I started to see those treacherous bits.

pguillem · « **Reply #14 on:** January 23, 2013, 01:42:23 PM »

Quote from: woodinsight on January 23, 2013, 05:48:47 AM

Hmmm - I thought it looked a bit odd but I didn't really question it as there is apparently an H10 model double-decker and I just assumed this may have been a prototype......
From one who isn't familiar with PhotoShop - my apologies

I can't find it.

woodinsight · « **Reply #15 on:** January 23, 2013, 01:45:18 PM »

Quote from: pguillem on January 23, 2013, 01:42:23 PM

Quote from: woodinsight on January 23, 2013, 05:48:47 AM
Hmmm - I thought it looked a bit odd but I didn't really question it as there is apparently an H10 model double-decker and I just assumed this may have been a prototype......
From one who isn't familiar with PhotoShop - my apologies

I can't find it.

Do you mean the Autosan H10 Double-Decker?

del78 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 23, 2013, 02:15:59 PM »

there were not any double decker buses made in Poland, not even a single prototype that I know of

pguillem · « **Reply #17 on:** January 23, 2013, 02:33:42 PM »

The sky is the limit.

woodinsight · « **Reply #18 on:** January 23, 2013, 02:51:04 PM »

Quote from: pguillem on January 23, 2013, 02:33:42 PM

The sky is the limit.

woodinsight · « **Reply #19 on:** January 23, 2013, 03:00:07 PM »

I presume this image of an Autosan H10 double-decker is also a 'photo-shop' job?

pguillem · « **Reply #20 on:** January 23, 2013, 03:28:44 PM »

Quote from: woodinsight on January 23, 2013, 03:00:07 PM

I presume this image of an Autosan H10 double-decker is also a 'photo-shop' job?

This image is given by the Polish site Przegubowiec. I found a sketch of a double-decker proposal (among others) intended to modernize the Autosan H6-06. However, Przegubowiec doesn't show this image. Google Image Search only refers to a Dutch site, which also shows the Autosan H9 double-decker, but I found many errors on this site, so I'm afraid that this Autosan H10 double-decker is photoshopped.

Wendax · « **Reply #21 on:** January 23, 2013, 03:33:08 PM »

I think the identical reflection on the glass of the second left large window and the one below is a telltale one.

del78 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 23, 2013, 03:36:42 PM »

reply to all
this site www.przegubowiec.com is no longer online, it's very pity
there was no such a model as Autosan H6 bus because this was only a minibus
and I repeat there was no double decker buses made in Poland
all those pictures are only better or worse made photoshoped images

woodinsight · « **Reply #23 on:** January 23, 2013, 04:07:00 PM »

Quote from: pguillem on January 23, 2013, 03:28:44 PM

Quote from: woodinsight on January 23, 2013, 03:00:07 PM
I presume this image of an Autosan H10 double-decker is also a 'photo-shop' job?

This image is given by the Polish site Przegubowiec. I found a sketch of a double-decker proposal (among others) intended to modernize the Autosan H6-06. However, Przegubowiec doesn't show this image. Google Image Search only refers to a Dutch site, but I found many errors on this site, so I'm afraid that This Autosan H10 double-decker is photoshopped.

Incredible!

This is one of the reasons I prefer to rely on my library rather than use the Internet.....
Personally I only use the Internet occasionally to search for information and to double-check my own sources.
However having said that I know it's a fantastic tool but one has to be aware that much of the information is copied from sources that are often unreliable. It is so important that Internet sources are not taken as gospel and should be treated with circumspect.
I really believe that we here at AP eventually reveal the true story to many myths that exist out there.

Sorry, rant over but it's necessary sometimes to express what one thinks......

Search by Google Image is banned on this site but perhaps PhotoShopped images should be treated similarly.....

D-type · « **Reply #24 on:** January 23, 2013, 05:38:37 PM »

Can I suggest changing the thread title to "Photoshopped fake Autosan H9 Double-Decker"

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Author Topic: Solved - MJW #1091 - PhotoShopped image (fake Autosan H9 Double-Decker) (Read 1072 times)