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Solved - MJW #1061 - Havas Simca-Gordini 1959
« on: December 12, 2012, 05:28:29 PM »
For a point name the make/constructor, what it was based on and the year (apologies for the poor image)
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Re: MJW #1061
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2012, 11:25:52 AM »
Trident Badge(?) Central seat. Is it a conversion of a Maserati A6GCM?
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Re: MJW #1061
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2012, 01:23:57 AM »
Quote from: nicanary on December 13, 2012, 11:25:52 AM
Trident Badge(?) Central seat. Is it a conversion of a Maserati A6GCM?
It looks like a Trident badge but I don't have a clearer picture.
Anyway there is no Maserati connection....
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Re: MJW #1061
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2012, 03:46:36 AM »
Experts?
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Re: MJW #1061
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2012, 05:15:19 AM »
Fiat based?
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Re: MJW #1061
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2012, 10:26:42 AM »
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Re: MJW #1061
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2012, 01:52:49 PM »
Italian ?
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Re: MJW #1061
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2012, 02:04:05 PM »
Quote from: mekubb on December 25, 2012, 01:52:49 PM
Italian ?
Nothing to do with Italy......
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Re: MJW #1061
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2012, 04:38:30 AM »
From USA ?
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Re: MJW #1061
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2012, 10:42:31 AM »
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Re: MJW #1061
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2012, 10:55:46 AM »
Swiss?
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Re: MJW #1061
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2012, 11:18:42 AM »
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Re: MJW #1061
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2012, 11:19:34 AM »
Soviet/East Bloc?
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Re: MJW #1061
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2012, 11:24:43 AM »
Any BMW 328 in there?
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Re: MJW #1061
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2012, 11:29:25 AM »
No BMW connection and no German connection either.
Likewise there is no Soviet/East Bloc involvement.

The base car is from from one country but it was put together and raced in another.....
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Re: MJW #1061
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2013, 03:15:44 AM »
Moving up to the Pros
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Re: MJW #1061
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2013, 09:50:03 AM »
Came across this car by accident. It is a Havas, built by Hans van As from The Netherlands and had a Simca-Gordini engine (later a Porsche engine). The car was built around 1958-1959.
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Re: MJW #1061
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2013, 02:40:44 PM »
Quote from: mekubb on January 06, 2013, 09:50:03 AM
Came across this car by accident. It is a Havas, built by Hans van As from The Netherlands and had a Simca-Gordini engine (later a Porsche engine). The car was built around 1958-1959.
Yes, that's the car!
Hans van As also built a later car that was also featured on this site.
One point for you.
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Re: Solved - MJW #1061 - Havas Simca-Gordini 1959
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2014, 08:38:03 AM »
Sorry, you cant give the point, it is not a Havas Gordini, it is just a Havas with Porsche engine at that time, build in 1956, I am the owner of this car.....
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Re: Solved - MJW #1061 - Havas Simca-Gordini 1959
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2014, 08:49:29 AM »
Quote from: matramurena on April 15, 2014, 08:38:03 AM
Sorry, you cant give the point, it is not a Havas Gordini, it is just a Havas with Porsche engine at that time, build in 1956, I am the owner of this car.....

Thanks and welcome to AutoPuzzles matramurena.
He earned his point of course by giving the information that was available at the time..
But you say it always had a Porsche engine, never a Gordini?
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Re: Solved - MJW #1061 - Havas Simca-Gordini 1959
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2014, 08:56:48 AM »
At first it had an 1100cc Simca 8 engine, with Simca 8 chassis and suspension. Build around a tubular frame for the body.

Later (the seccond season) the car was modified as seen on the picture, and a Porsche engine was installed.

In the last season the car was heavily modified and the Simca engine was reinstalled.

The people in The Netherlands were poor at that time, they raced with what they had available......

Probably in 1960 the car was sold and it's racing life was over, it became a road car....
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