Author Topic: SOLVED: Djetset #638 - CADV AC Ace (from Venezula) (Read 9458 times)

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #25 on:** June 03, 2013, 02:51:01 PM »

Helguero?

Djetset · « **Reply #26 on:** June 03, 2013, 02:52:57 PM »

Not Helguero.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #27 on:** June 03, 2013, 02:53:25 PM »

A known name, like Bucci?

Djetset · « **Reply #28 on:** June 03, 2013, 02:54:50 PM »

Not widely known, so not Bucci.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #29 on:** June 03, 2013, 03:00:04 PM »

already featured here like Scalabroni?

Djetset · « **Reply #30 on:** June 03, 2013, 03:05:12 PM »

I don't think so, as I couldn't find it using the search function (although I know that this has not been working very well of late).

Talking of recent changes to AP, is anyone else having problems with all the photos now appearing mis-shapen and stretched? Maybe it's just my PC!

Carnut · « **Reply #31 on:** June 03, 2013, 03:22:26 PM »

Quote from: Djetset on June 03, 2013, 03:05:12 PM

Talking of recent changes to AP, is anyone else having problems with all the photos now appearing mis-shaped and stretched? Maybe it's my PC!

Yes, quite a few of us have including me.

On your toolbar right at the top have you got a button next to the "Refresh" arrows button marked "Compatability View"? If you have click on it and it makes the pictures compatible with older hardware. It worked for me!

mekubb · « **Reply #32 on:** June 03, 2013, 03:28:52 PM »

Mexico ?

Djetset · « **Reply #33 on:** June 03, 2013, 04:45:00 PM »

Thank you Carnut; I just tried 'Compatability View' and it sorted the photograph problem out instantly.

Oh, and sorry Mekubb, but this car is not from Mexico.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #34 on:** June 03, 2013, 04:46:46 PM »

Argentina?

Djetset · « **Reply #35 on:** June 03, 2013, 04:51:08 PM »

Sorry PJ, but Mekupp had already suggested Argentina earlier, and it is not from there.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #36 on:** June 03, 2013, 04:57:48 PM »

Ouch..Brazil?

Djetset · « **Reply #37 on:** June 03, 2013, 05:05:04 PM »

Double Ouch: not Brazil!!

Arunas · « **Reply #38 on:** June 03, 2013, 11:40:59 PM »

From Uruguay?

Djetset · « **Reply #39 on:** June 04, 2013, 06:24:14 AM »

Not Uruguay.

Carnut · « **Reply #40 on:** June 04, 2013, 07:04:10 AM »

Venezuela?

dzima1985 · « **Reply #41 on:** June 04, 2013, 07:06:52 AM »

Republic of Chile?

Djetset · « **Reply #42 on:** June 04, 2013, 07:09:00 AM »

Not Chile, but it is from Venzuela, so now locked to Carnut until your next reply.

Carnut · « **Reply #43 on:** June 04, 2013, 11:16:10 AM »

Quote from: Djetset on June 04, 2013, 07:09:00 AM

Not Chile, but it is from Venzuela, so now locked to Carnut until your next reply.

Thanks.
I'm sure you said somewhere this one is easy..
After Googling the entire afternoon away look for Venezuelan racing cars I gave up that tack and concentrated instead on European cars which might have been bodied out there, as it surely was based on something from Europe.

Of all places I found on the AC Owners' Club site that an Ace Bristol was sent out to Venezuela straight from the factory in 1956, but I assume as a normal AC Ace. I can't find out who put this body on but then you didn't ask for that, so I figure this might be it; it looks somewhat like it (and that badge could say 'AC' on it)!:

Djetset · « **Reply #44 on:** June 04, 2013, 11:21:09 AM »

Pleased to see that you have had a productive afternoon Carnut! It is indeed based on an AC Ace, so you now have two of the three vital components to be awarded a point.

So, remaining locked to you, what is the make of this car (one which I have known of for years incidentially, as it has been featured in a number of magazines globally for the past 30+ years, and has also appeared at Goodwood; hence me thinking it would be easy).

Carnut · « **Reply #45 on:** June 04, 2013, 12:01:46 PM »

So you're telling me it's not an AC?

Strange, as now I've identified it I've found some very nice pictures of the restored car (including your puzzle photo) on a German AC website, and amongst all the photos of the finished car are its chassis plate which identifies this car as an AC Ace Bristol built by AC Cars Ltd., S/N BEX 148 and Engine Number 3289! There is also a picture of its Venezuelan licence plate which shows it as MCZ-653 and some magazine reports of the car being driven in races by an Oscar Lipi and an R. Rivera. The car is always described as an AC Ace Bristol!

I've tried to Google the chassis number and to find its appearance at Goodwood but with blank results.

I will therefore have to bow out of this one and let someone else take the point for my hours of searching...!

Here is another (slightly better) copy of your puzzle photo from that website showing what looks very much to me like an AC badge...

Carnut · « **Reply #46 on:** June 04, 2013, 12:04:45 PM »

I have no idea why these photos only appear as thumbnails.
You can click on the caption and it will open for you in a picture viewer.

Edit: It all works fine now! Brilliant!

Carnut · « **Reply #47 on:** June 04, 2013, 12:16:22 PM »

I did find the following on an AC forum in which the thread was entitled "Mystery AC Ace":

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The Ace registrars of the AC Owners Club (ACOC) will be grateful if anyone can identify this long bootlid (trunklid) Ace or Ace Bristol that appeared at a show in Georgia in 2006 described as having Venezuela racing history - this to help with ongoing research of Aces in competition.
The long lid makes it an early (spring 1957 or earlier) car.
This to follow the 3 articles in ACtion (the ACOC club magazine) focusing on the Venezuela connection - cars imported and raced in Venezuela and even in Colombia.
The mystery question was already posted on the ACOC forum but unfortunately no information has come up yet.
Obviously the car has undergone some modifications that are Cobra inspired. Even though the engine isn't shown it is very probably a V8.
Thanks a lot for anyone who can shed some light on this car.
Below you will find the link to the original ACOC forum thread with the pictures in the original size.
These pics are also to be found on the net in several places.
UNQUOTE

The car is pictured below and I think that badge is a Cobra. I'm not sure whether this is the same car though which had reverted to an AC front and then perhaps returned later to its modified front when restored or whether it's a different car altogether.

Djetset · « **Reply #48 on:** June 04, 2013, 12:38:03 PM »

As I said, it is based on an AC Ace, but modified by another company (in Venezuela), in the same way let's say as a Crayford Cortina was based on a Ford, but known as a Crayford

nicanary · « **Reply #49 on:** June 04, 2013, 03:27:34 PM »

I've been following this thread with mild interest. Juan "Jack" Fernandez was a very energetic agent for AC in Venezuala - his name pops up everywhere and I've found at least three cars from 1956/57 which he was involved with - BEX Nos. 148,155 and 235. They all seem to have been raced and then disappeared into the backwaters of US club racing.

As Carnut says, this car is now configured as a period AC-Bristol racer, complete with "Le Mans"-style screen and cowled radiator intake. Was it once known as a "Fernandez" ?

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Author Topic: SOLVED: Djetset #638 - CADV AC Ace (from Venezula) (Read 9458 times)