Author Topic: SOLVED: Djetset #327 - 1:1.75 scale Ferrari 250 GTO by Carrozzeria Allegretti of Modena  (Read 4127 times)

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Re: Djetset #327: Mystery Car 2
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2010, 12:31:59 AM »
No, that was just a guess.

You already said it wasnt 850 based, the wheelbase didnt look right for a 600, and i thought it looked to old to be 126 based....

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Re: Djetset #327: Mystery Car 2
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2010, 06:22:05 AM »
This one hasn't been touched for 10 months and remains a mystery, so it will be on its way to The Black Hole in a few days, unless anyone can prove what it is.  ???
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Re: Djetset #327: Mystery Car 2
« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2010, 02:26:36 PM »
Into the Hole we go....
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Re: Djetset #327: Mystery Car 2
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2011, 05:19:58 PM »
William Favre's GTO

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Re: Djetset #327: Mystery Car 2
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2011, 07:13:40 AM »
No, Favre's GTO is too big to be based on a Fiat 500 as this one is!
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Re: Djetset #327: Mystery Car 2
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2012, 06:41:43 PM »
Alpha 1 GTO?

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Re: Djetset #327: Mystery Car 2
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2012, 03:45:54 PM »
Although I do not know the name of this GTO, I suspect that it is not an Alpha 1, as that is a full-size, front-engined replica kit car, whereas this is a smaller-scale Fiat 500-based  If you can prove otherwise though, I will be happy to know more.
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Re: Djetset #327: Mystery Car 2
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2012, 05:36:23 PM »
Sorry, my mistake. Alpha 1 is based on a Datsun too, and is powered by 350 V8 front engine.

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Re: Djetset #327: Mystery Car 2
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2012, 05:43:35 PM »
No need to apologise; at least you revived this one to try and help get it resolved. ;)
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Re: Djetset #327: Mystery Car 2
« Reply #34 on: February 29, 2012, 02:23:34 PM »
No, Favre's GTO is too big to be based on a Fiat 500 as this one is!
Are you sure?  So many details are the same - light type and arrangement, vents, bonnet fasteners, windscreen rake, windows, 2 louvres, etc
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Re: Djetset #327: Mystery Car 2
« Reply #35 on: February 29, 2012, 03:57:05 PM »
No, I'm not 100% sure, which is why this one is a mystery car. 

A friend who saw the car at the 'ring many years ago assures me though that is a reduced-scale GTO replica, albeit very accurate, despite its rear-mounted Fiat 500 engine.  Sadly this friend didn't think to make a note of what it was called at the time!  It might well be by Favre, but it will need some proof.
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Re: Djetset #327: Mystery Car 2
« Reply #36 on: February 29, 2012, 05:04:22 PM »
I don't know either, but they look similar, but Favre is front engined, and according to some webpages, V12 or V8 even V6. So doesn't fit to your description.

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Re: Djetset #327: Mystery Car 2
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2012, 10:55:00 AM »
This must be the 1:1.75 scale GTO by Carrozzeria Allegretti of Modena, powered by a 562 cc Fiat Topolino engine producing a heady 21 bhp.

Here are a few words about Allegretti's scale replicas plus another photo:

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If building these little reminders of past motoring glories seems an odd occupation, be advised that it is something of a sideline for Stefano Allegretti and his artisans. Their bread-and-butter work comes, as it has for many years, from restoring “real” Ferraris, Maseratis, and other Italian exotica. Mario Allegretti, Stefano’s father, founded the firm after working in the carrozzeria trade in the Modena-Maranello area. Mario’s hands helped shape some of the cars his son now re-creates, and in fact he oversaw construction of the first scaled-down replicas.

In terms of numbers made, the Allegrettis are less common than the originals. Since 1985, perhaps 20 have been built, including 250F and “Birdcage” Maseratis, and Ferraris ranging from an early Tipo 500 Formula Two car to a more recent P4 racer. Customers have also commissioned replicas of the Ferrari 275 GTS “NART Spyder” and 250 GTO. There is, however, no reason for future clients to limit themselves to these choices. Stefano Allegretti will be happy to build a replica of just about anything on four wheels. If it’s Italian, he’s probably had at least one full-size example in his shop at one time or another.
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« Last Edit: March 04, 2012, 11:09:46 AM by Carnut »
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Re: Djetset #327: Mystery Car 2
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2012, 01:16:14 AM »
This must be the 1:1.75 scale GTO by Carrozzeria Allegretti of Modena, powered by a 562 cc Fiat Topolino engine producing a heady 21 bhp.

Here are a few words about Allegretti's scale replicas plus another photo:

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If building these little reminders of past motoring glories seems an odd occupation, be advised that it is something of a sideline for Stefano Allegretti and his artisans. Their bread-and-butter work comes, as it has for many years, from restoring “real” Ferraris, Maseratis, and other Italian exotica. Mario Allegretti, Stefano’s father, founded the firm after working in the carrozzeria trade in the Modena-Maranello area. Mario’s hands helped shape some of the cars his son now re-creates, and in fact he oversaw construction of the first scaled-down replicas.

In terms of numbers made, the Allegrettis are less common than the originals. Since 1985, perhaps 20 have been built, including 250F and “Birdcage” Maseratis, and Ferraris ranging from an early Tipo 500 Formula Two car to a more recent P4 racer. Customers have also commissioned replicas of the Ferrari 275 GTS “NART Spyder” and 250 GTO. There is, however, no reason for future clients to limit themselves to these choices. Stefano Allegretti will be happy to build a replica of just about anything on four wheels. If it’s Italian, he’s probably had at least one full-size example in his shop at one time or another.
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Re: Djetset #327: Mystery Car 2
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2012, 01:12:40 PM »
Re the question on the three vents on the "hood".  Some of the early cars did not have these and all of the others had detachable panels which covered these cooling ducts up when not needed.  In certain light it appears that these cars have no vents

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Re: Djetset #327: Mystery Car 2
« Reply #40 on: March 15, 2012, 06:22:06 PM »
Wow, I've been away from AutoPuzzles for the last 10 days, so it is great to come back and find one of my long-term puzzles finally solved.

Very well done Carnut, you deserve two points for this one, which I award you with pleasure, as this has taken over two years to solve!  :applause:
« Last Edit: March 15, 2012, 06:25:21 PM by Djetset »
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Solved: Allemano's № 884 - Ferrari 250 GTO midget car by Allegretti
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2013, 06:57:31 AM »
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Re: Allemano's № 884
« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2013, 06:06:50 PM »
Ferrari 250 GTO, right?

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Re: Allemano's № 884
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2013, 09:48:27 AM »
Ferrari 250 GTO, right?
Yes, but...
wouldn't it be too easy?

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Re: Allemano's № 884
« Reply #47 on: May 26, 2013, 08:59:49 AM »
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Re: Allemano's № 884
« Reply #48 on: May 26, 2013, 10:12:19 AM »
1964 Ferrari 250GTO replica by Allegretti.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

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Re: Allemano's № 884
« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2013, 10:15:27 AM »
1964 Ferrari 250GTO replica by Allegretti.
Yes, a 1:1,75 scale midget GTO!