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What's this, from when and who was driving?

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Re: NEH 2684
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2013, 05:27:53 AM »
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Re: NEH 2684
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2013, 05:52:36 AM »
1947 Alfa Romeo 2500 Sport ?
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Re: NEH 2684
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2013, 06:13:35 AM »
I think the correct definition is 6c 2500 competizione Le Mans...I don't want to steal a point!

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Re: NEH 2684
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2013, 06:32:56 AM »
Neither have you have written exactly what I have it as (not that I am necessarily right of course..) but both are close.
However, since neither of you have answered all the questions posed I'll leafe the two of you to fight it out and see who comes up with the all the right answers first!
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Re: NEH 2684
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2013, 06:39:19 AM »
1948 Alfa Romeo 6C2500 Competizione Berlinetta. That's either Franco Rol in the 1949 Mille Miglia or Mario and Franco Bornigia in the 1950 Targa Florio.
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Re: NEH 2684
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2013, 07:08:26 AM »
1948 Alfa Romeo 6C2500 Competizione Berlinetta. That's either Franco Rol in the 1949 Mille Miglia or Mario and Franco Bornigia in the 1950 Targa Florio.

It's a 6C2500 (and a couple more words) and it is seen racing in 1950, but not in the Targo Florio nor driven by the Borniglias..
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Re: NEH 2684
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2013, 07:31:41 AM »
I can't find that photo of yours, but I reckon it's the 1950 Mille Miglia, and that's none other than Juan Manuel Fangio who came third overall in what was basically a pre-war design.

I can find numerous references to that car, but none that call it anything else. (The suggestion of Le Mans can't be correct - the car never raced there). Is one word a reference to the coachbuilder ?
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Re: NEH 2684
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2013, 07:41:00 AM »
I can't find that photo of yours, but I reckon it's the 1950 Mille Miglia, and that's none other than Juan Manuel Fangio who came third overall in what was basically a pre-war design.

I can find numerous references to that car, but none that call it anything else. (The suggestion of Le Mans can't be correct - the car never raced there). Is one word a reference to the coachbuilder ?

It is the 1950 Mille Miglia, yes, and the driver is the legendary Fangio with Alex Zanardi (who must be the father or grandfather of ex-F1 driver Alex Zanardi?)
So I'll call it solved as the names vary according to the source; my source calls it a 6C 2500 SS (standing for Super Sports? Or Sports Speciale?)

1 point for you.
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Thanks. I thought I'd put the letters SS on my answer, because I was using them for locating images ! I just left them off my reply for some strange reason.
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The car was one of the famous Sleeping Beauties. You can see it at the top left with an altered grille.
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It's actually the 1950 car rather than the similar 1948 and 1949 versions, and its full and correct name I believe is 6C2500 SS Competizione.

Here are some pictures of what it looks like restored:

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Re: NEH 2684
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2013, 03:42:42 PM »
I can't find that photo of yours, but I reckon it's the 1950 Mille Miglia, and that's none other than Juan Manuel Fangio who came third overall in what was basically a pre-war design.

I can find numerous references to that car, but none that call it anything else. (The suggestion of Le Mans can't be correct - the car never raced there). Is one word a reference to the coachbuilder ?

It is the 1950 Mille Miglia, yes, and the driver is the legendary Fangio with Alex Zanardi (who must be the father or grandfather of ex-F1 driver Alex Zanardi?)
So I'll call it solved as the names vary according to the source; my source calls it a 6C 2500 SS (standing for Super Sports? Or Sports Speciale?)

1 point for you.
According to the autobiography of Alex Zanardi the F1 driver and paralympic gold medallist, he was the son of a plumber.  He makes no mention of his father or his grandfather ever having raced so presumably they aren't related.
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Beautiful car in person.  This seems to be the car I saw in Seattle in 2006.  If so, the info card provided by owner David Smith calls it a 1948.